Buy American

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  1. NMNeil

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    You do know SiG has an American branch, right?

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    Personally, I would have brought up the fact that many of MAGA hats at the inagguration were made in Vietnam.
     
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    Sig is a better hand gun. Our troops need the best to be defended. The M9 is out dated and doesn't have the best stopping power, accuracy, etc.

    I am good with this decision. (Though, the firearm nut in me, would prefer the H&K USP .45).
     
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    It us true that this has been doing on for a while now and Trump cannot be blamed fir thus but:

    1-why doesn't Trump issue an executive order and do away with thus "deal"?
    2- since Ford and other companieswho announced they are keeping operations in the US just a month after the election obviously had made those decisions way before the Trump was elected why do Trump supporters give him credit for what he has not done?

    Blame him fir only he was responsible for doing wrong but do give him credit for that fir which he had nothing to do with.
     
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    Many if not all major brands have some form of an American foot print. Most of the "American" operations that these Fake American companies have can be easily detected. The phony ones use names such as SONY USA, HONDA USA, TOYOTA USA. Some number of these comoanies do " make" or assemble some modules as in the case of cars in the US but the profits still go to the foreign company.

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    The SIG SAUER is replacing the Make America Great Italian brand of Beretta as I recall.
     
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    i like my 9mm plicker canik tp9 [​IMG] 349$ retail made in turkey its super accurate when i shot it with a 4.5 inch barrel. you can not get a threaded one for 199.00$ after market, but soon i bet they will be standard options with its next generation i also have a 40 cal Taurus 100AF clone m9 its really accurate also frame mount safety
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    quicker then the slide safety the m9 has a hard to reach with the thumb on the slide
     
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    It's a Swiss company, but it's a good gun, and it's manufactured in the US, so I'm good with it. I have informed Gen. Mattis that he may proceed on this.
     
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    I was very upset back when they replaced the Colt type .45 with the 9mm. A 9mm is closest to a .38 Cal and that is not the stopping power our troops needs. USAF flight crews back when I was in as active duty were issued .38 revolvers.... yes revolvers which also were the standard issue weapon in the "survival" pack.

    I know firva fact that during Vietnam flight crews smuggled in better weapons such as .45 semi auto, .357 mag etc.
     
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    I am sure that the good General was waiting for your approval..
     
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    How is Toyota USA a fake brand when they produce the majority of the cars they sell in America also in America?
     
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    the only reason i dont like it it lacks a safety most young army guys are kind of clumsy and might shoot themselves or some other tropper accidentally
    [video=youtube;IyBfrf7iitA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyBfrf7iitA[/video]
     
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    The idea behind this new pistol is that it is modular and incredibly easy to modify (at the unit armorer level). If the unit needs a .45 it can be converted with little work necessary.
     
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    In the 1980's "we" gave the contract for the M16 to the Belgium owned company FabriquecNationale SA of Belgium, which had a wholly owned subsidiary called FN Manufacturing in Columbia South Carolina and the Belgium owned company as many foreign companies do had a cute American name for their subsidiary. Thus happened during the Reagan years so even Saint 'Glory BeHisName ' Ronnie had at times let America down. So looks as it Obama's people where channeling Saint Ronnie.
     
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    Facts schmacts... Liberals aren't interested in facts, just unrepentant outrage from their current unrequited mommy loss grief.
     
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    Is it FN's fault Colt couldn't beat their bid?
     
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    the army should of went with a springfield xdm with a safety grip at least with threaded barrel, because of the lack of training for most officers or other lower ranks get..
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    Fake in the sense that they use a suffix or something like it with the name USA or " of America" in order to make it sound "American".

    I do not know it is true that Toyota makes most of the cars it sells in the US market, in the US. I do know that it assembles some of the better selling models here.

    What is funny here is that Ford has used the excuse that they make and or assemble their smaller cheaper models in Mexico since they sell the smaller cheaper models to Mexicans.
     
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    No candidate was serious about "buy American" aside from Sanders.
     
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    yeah even springfield Armory has been importing the xd from Croatia, i have a 40 cal first generation my self and it stamp [​IMG] on the upper frame
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory,_Inc.
     
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    So you are saying Toyota cars made in America by American workers are actually Japanese cars?
     
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    Not blaming anyone just was upset that an Un- American company got the bid. I know thatvin the 1980's Colt was going through some bad times and they almost went bankrupt and they actually lost the rights to the Colt Trademark to a company that makes jeans in China or Bangladesh..
     
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    Oh get off it did you not hear Blonde Bimbo Kelly Anne say that Spicer had a right to make up "alternative facts"! So who is not interested in facts!
     

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