CNN: “Is Trump gaslighting us, trying to manipulate?

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  1. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    Brian Stelter, host of “Reliable Sources":)eekeyes:) on CNN & a fierce opponent of President Trump:

    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2017/01/22/cnn-dictator-trump-making-you-doubt-your-own-eyes-truth

    Is that what CNN & Stelter consider responsible journalism? Apparently it is. Less that 3 days into a new administration and they're seriously equating Trump to a dictator and asking a bevy of pointedly negative questions all geared to make their "dictator" comparison appear as a responsible, justifiable concern. With garbage like that it's no wonder why their credibility is in the tank or why many liberals who buy into that type of BS are hysterical.
     
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    CNN is a DNC disinformation channel. They will whore themselves out to whatever fantasy the DNC cooks up.
     
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    Trump is "gaslighting" (whatever that means) them because they're fake news. Actions have consequences. The consequence to their actions was losing their reputation, credibility, and legitimate access to the office of the President.
     
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    If Trump's talking crap, then I for one do want the media to hold his feet to the fire. We all should. If he's not going to be honest and forthright, he's not worthy of being president. That's not to say that his predecessor or his electoral opponent represented any kind of ideal in this regard, of course, but still there are some unique aspects to Trump as president. Most of all, we need to watch out for him becoming the next Dear Leader with a loyal following that could lead to extremism and violence.

    I feel we're treading on increasingly thin ice right now with this guy in charge. I fear for how the dynamic between him, his loyal supporters, and his detractors could play out. I'm alarmed by extremism on all sides and afraid that this nation really is going to be torn apart eventually.
     
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    I agree, although I will remove Trump from the equation altogether, or at least reduce him to a minor variable. This extremism and division has been going on for more than a decade. We are a point in our society where two ideologies can no longer function, cooperate, or stand each other. Conflict is surely in our future. Other nations often split over such matters but our own Civil War in the past makes such a question rather troubling.
     
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    Yes, this is true. Trump is kind of a symptom of a growing problem. However, I fear he could also be a major catalyst.
     
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    You could argue Obama was of the same strain, albeit from a different direction. The Catalysts have been piling up for a long time. We've only begun to notice them.
     
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    CNN could broadcast Trump's pressers unedited..... and otherwise NOT comment or speculate ....
     
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    But how do we resolve it peacefully? We should be able to agree to disagree on things and settle for reasonable compromises. That's how society functions in principle. It's when that ceases that civil wars and the like start brewing. I just don't want us reaching that extreme. You ask me, the two party system has been instrumental in bringing us this close to disaster. Either it goes or the nation fails..
     
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    The hyperliberal Left's propaganda machines, like CNN, MSNBC, et al, are all spun-up and attacking President Trump for everything and anything, real or imagined. And, when they haven't got anything else they can sink their fangs into, they sit and SPECULATE about what kind of evil, dreadful, horrible thing that he MIGHT be planning to do! And ALL of this horse (*)(*)(*)(*) is spewing out before President Trump has even had one (ONE) actual full working day on the job!

    Did they tear into Obama's precious, socialist-lite ass in this way -- EVER -- even after eight years and countless lies were told by him, over and over...? But they will be ripping into Trump every chance they can find, or IMAGINE, whether there's any reason for it or not....

    [​IMG]. "It's noon already, and he hasn't changed water into wine! IMPEACH HIM!"
     
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    Very true, and I think they've been worse about this than Fox News in the reverse also.
     
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    It's like watching a meltdown in kindergarten. It's like a bunch of 5 year olds being told they aren't going to get a milk box before their nap.

    What is truly worrisome is that unfortunately, these aren't 5 year olds, but folks who believe that they are responsible for shaping public opinion. Make no mistake, that is truly the danger of the kind of egregious propaganda spewing MSM outlets over the last 10 or so years. Unbridled propaganda being confronted by change ignites into this type of hyperventilating seething hatred and temper tantrum.

    Classic parenting suggests that if only we ignore it, it will ultimately subside. Yes, it's noisy, yes, it's messy, and the toddlers will truly "feel" that it is lifethreatening. The question is, how long will this last? How long do we have to endure this cacophony of shrieking? Thanks the gods we have the ability to turn the channel, or close the websites.
     
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    These same lame stream hypocrites gave Obama an eight year honeymoon, and start pressuring the Trump administration from day one. I'm positive I'm not the only one who remembers such things. This liberal lunacy will ensure a Trump re-election...
     
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    The questions you should be asking yourself is why you 'feel' that way & why you fear the dynamic now with "this guy" in charge, if you didn't have those feelings & fears 1,2,3 years ago. After all, we've seen a rash of violent demonstrations, cops being singled out as enemies, some being assassinated, private property being torched, immigrants flooding in from all parts of the world with little concern about who they are or where their loyalties rest, an administration led by a man who feels quite at ease openly criticizing his opponents, even taking many shots at one News Networks, etc. I mean, things haven't been all that quiet & peaceful for some time, have they?

    But now, Trump wins & suddenly fear sets in? Suddenly, millions of people are taking to the streets thinking Trump's Hitler? Come on, the man hasn't been in office a week! The only reason you, and I suspect others as well, have these feelings is because that's exactly how the media & the left have have orchestrated their message since Nov 9th. That's what the left what's you feeling, even if it's totally irrational, which much of their message is. They hate Trump's "America first" agenda. They hate he won & they detest anyone who voted for him or supports him. The liberal press may harbor some of those feelings, but they have their own controlling interests to protect and they're going to fight to maintain that at all costs.

    Fear not....truth is, the sky isn't falling & when you read garbage like Stilter is spewing or see a few extreme militants out causing chaos it's important to keep things in perspective.
     
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    I found the rioting under 0bama very concerning, actually, and it's those radicals who concern me now as well. I just worry that their radicalism will grow in severity and potentially in popular support under Trump.
     
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    Do you forget that Fox did the same thing to Obama?
     
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    No question there are those committed to radical actions, but there are far more who are just socially connected in way or another. The groups that worry we most are the committed anarchists, true believers who are anti-America because they're wielding considerable power in in groups like LaRaza, SPLC, Think Progress, and dozens of other organizations. Hopefully, the pawns who just join these groups because they support one cause or another will step back, recognize the destructive agenda and that they're just being used by those nut bags. We'll see.
     

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