Donald Trump’s national security adviser is reportedly under investigation for contac

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ouch.

    Allegedly, Trump's national security advisor is under investigation.

    For his ties to the Russians.

    That's got to sting a bit, barley 3 days in office and already word is getting out about the FBI checking out parts of Trump's administration.

    Is this the start of a deluge of such accusations? OR will ti be dismissed as "fake news" as anything critical of Team Trump seems to be?

    http://www.salon.com/2017/01/23/don...under-investigation-for-contacts-with-russia/

    Reports continue to be released about an alleged investigation — which could be either entirely past or still ongoing — into contacts between retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, President Trump’s national security adviser, and the Russian government.

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and Treasury Department have all inquired into the extent of Flynn’s contact with the Russian government, according to a report by The Wall Street Journal on Sunday. The inquiry is also said to have looked at other Trump advisers, including former campaign manager Paul Manafort and businessman Carter Page. The sources who spoke to the Journal were unclear as to when the inquiry began, what if any incriminating evidence it has produced and whether it was still ongoing. All that they confirmed is that the inquiry was intended to determine whether Flynn’s contact with Russian officials broke the law and that it has focused on telephones call made between Flynn and Sergey Kislyak, Russia’s ambassador to the United States, on Dec. 29.
     
  2. Maindawg

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    Scandal of the day ? The entire drump team is under FBI investigation. I read that the drumming stop the FBI from doing their jobs . And the investigation is going to continue. The drump is guilty of treason. I hope they remove him before he does irreversible damage but I don't think they will.it would have been better for our intelligence agencies to do their jobs before this. It's going to be messy now
     
  3. zbr6

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    Pure garbage from a pure garbage source.

    Salon, give me a break.

    The only "investigation" was a simple inquiry into the calls that he took from an officially recognized and invited Russian diplomat, who was in DC at the time, on the day that Obama dropped sanctions on Russia.

    This is Leftist conspiracy theory garbage.
     
  4. Fisherguy

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    A little too much treason going on with Trumpf and his entourage. Flynn has a weird fixation with Iran as well, and that can't be good. He needs to retire asap.....
     
  5. TomFitz

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    Of course, if you weren't afraid it might be true, you could have investigated to see if it was real or not.

    But you didn't. Instead you pretended it isn't because the story came from a link in a "garbage source".

    Well, the story is real, and is being reported out in several places now.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ntercepted-communications-20170119-story.html

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-eyes-michael-flynns-links-to-russia-1485134942
     
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    Of course Trumpeizdas will claim that this is fake news. There is something abnormal about Flynn's connection with the Russians.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Garbage source? You mean Fox us the source?
     
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    I like how your NY times link includes this little disclaimer:

    It is not clear whether the intercepted communications had anything to do with Mr. Trump’s campaign, or Mr. Trump himself. It is also unclear whether the inquiry has anything to do with an investigation into the hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s computers and other attempts to disrupt the elections in November.

    Oh and this

    The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said.

    It is to laugh.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. SillyAmerican

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    Me, I'd like to see every cabinet level person in the Trump administration setup a private email server and release the news to the press to get reaction. Wouldn't that be fun?
     
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    So what? The rabid, radical Joseph McCarty-ites doing this incessant Red Scare crap need to all be fired. There is nothing illegal nor wrong about "communicating with the Russian government."

    The desperation to keep making the TRILLIONS profit and tens of thousands of jobs off the now 70+ year old COLD WAR with the non-existent USSR and non-existent Warsaw Pact is off the charts. No more "nation building." No more "containing the Russian communists." No more "world police force."

    Russia has never been an enemy of the USA, we have NEVER been at war with Russia and our only direct involvement in war with Russia was as allies.
     
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    Salon is a garbage rag.

    The only "investigation" was a simple inquiry into the calls that he took from an officially recognized and invited Russian diplomat, who was in DC at the time, on the day that Obama dropped sanctions on Russia.

    Salon is treating it like there is a massive multi-agency, full court press, dumpster diving, wire tapping, satellite re-tasking, all hands on desk investigation...

    ...and you (both) fell for it.
     
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    Yes, the story is widely reported .. but its not a new story. I think they have been looking at Flynn for a couple of months.
     
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    This is old fake news....sad. The media has ran out of new fake news and now is just recycling the old fake news.
     
  13. JakeJ

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    If true, this is gross misconduct by the FBI. The FBI is neither policy nor law makers. There is NO prohibition whatsoever against communicating with Russia. Unless there is some credible evidence of espionage by General Flynn, there not only is no basis for any investigation, but the FBI has NO business investigating the military out of nothing but pondering - any more than the military would have no business investigating the FBI.

    The FALSE assertion that Russia is our enemy and no one dare communicate with anyone in the Russian government is just a damnable lie incessantly told by the faux MSM corporate PR propaganda outlets of the global super rich neocons. If you would like to try to to to Putin on the phone, send him a letter or an email to ask questions, converse or state your opinion - go for it. That is entirely A-OK and legal.
     
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    The DNC campaign was based upon piling lies on top of lies on top of lies - and relying on their minions to spread them.

    I stopped with your first link, since YOU claimed it is "widely reported" that Flynn is under investigation - and as proof offer your links.

    No, false statements convince no one. Your first link doesn't even mention General Flynn. Do you think it clever to provide a false link to prove a false OP? Srly, why did you even bother. Did you even read your own link?:roll:
     
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    Except it isn't fake.
     
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    If true...it's about freaking time after eight years that the FBI is back on the job.

    Many were wondering if Obama had politicized the DOJ and the FBI and the FBI weren't allowed to investigate Valerie Jarrett connections to communist and Iran or Huma Abedin connections to the Muslim Brotherhood or Secretary of State Hillary Clinton selling access to the State Department or Obama's past connections to Marxist, terrorist (Weather Underground), twenty years attending a racist anti-American "*******n America" church or having a FLOTUSA who was never proud of America.
     
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    No the "story" is very real, that's what makes it so funny.
     
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    Wow. Big news here. What exactly does it mean?
     
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    Considering the extent to which the Obama administration politicized our investigative agencies this sort of thing is only to be expected. It also helps to explain the foot-dragging on the confirmation for Trump replacements to the various departments.

    That said, many of us support better relations with Russia, and anything done along those lines is hardly treasonous. There are plenty of historical examples of presidential candidates or their representative putting out feelers to other countries prior to actual election, or even traveling to them, as Obama did.

    I find it laughable that those who committed true treason, selling out our country's manufacturing base and future, are trying to characterize members of the Trump administration in this way... probably a defensive maneuver to cover up their own bad faith.
     
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    "The sources " so another fuggin leak. Whoever is doing this investigation is very unprofessional, or your source is a liar. Tough to tell which.
     
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    "an alleged investigation — which could be either entirely past or still ongoing". "Alleged"..."could be"..."either entirely past"?
     
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    Who else was supposed to discuss and plan with the Russian ambassador the first phone call between President Obama and President Putin?
     
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    They could all get their accounts on trump.com run all their emails through it and at the end of the term the Trump lawyers, the ones that don't have security clearances, could go through and decide which ones to turn over to the Executive branch and then destroy the remaining.

    Surely none on the left here would dare voice a complaint if they did?
     
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    Thanks Democrats!
     
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    Pee-gate.
    Yeah, watch out for the stinging barley. [/QUOTE]
    We already know there was an investigation -- this was leaked two weeks ago. So the leakers are just re-leaking this to get it re-reported.

    A re-report of a re-leak.

    Media practice is to attribute leaks from the IC to "federal officials" or "intelligence community officials." In other words, people working for the federal government or the intelligence community.

    On Friday at 12 noon, John Brennan and other Obama political appointees in the IC lost their jobs, as Trump pointedly did not ask the leakers of pee-gate to remain aboard until their replacements could be confirmed.

    So these folks aren't Federal Officials or IC Officials any longer.

    They're just people, as of noon Friday.

    So the WSJ's attribution of its non-story?
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-eyes-michael-flynns-links-to-russia-1485134942

    Source is not "Federal Officials, but "People"!

    Sad!
     

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