A Republican will never again win the popular vote.

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  1. KAMALAYKA

    KAMALAYKA Banned

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    They're moving further right every day. This is why they haven't won the popular vote since...

    ...well, since 1988.

    Let that sink in.

    As the GOP becomes increasingly radical, they lose more and more sane people. Their only hope from now on is to cling to the Electoral College--which, through total luck, favors red states and thus gives the GOP a massive advantage.
     
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    Fortunately for republicans, there is no such thing as a popular vote.

    but do carry on as if there is.
     
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    KAMALAYKA Banned

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    What do you mean?
     
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    Belch Well-Known Member

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    I mean that if there was a popular vote, Hillary would have won. Since there isn't any, she sat on the sidelines and watched Trump take the oath of office.
     
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    Two thoughts on this: A) Don't count your chickens. B) I'm not sure it matters. No Democrat has won the white man's vote since 1964. Hasn't stopped the Democrats from winning elections.

    As for the Republicans moving further right, BOTH parties are getting more and more radical. Look at how well Bernie Sanders did in the primaries, an avowed Socialist. No Socialist has ever done as well in the Democratic primaries before, and certainly would never win a national election. Why do you think the establishment Republicans in Congress are so unpopular with the Republican rank and file? Because the rank and file have moved way further right than the establishment Republicans have. It's surprising that the Democratic leadership wasn't thrown out after such a debacle in the election, but I have no doubt their replacements would be even further left.
     
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    There is no "luck" to it-- The electoral college was designed to give more clout to candidates with a broadly dispersed national base, rather than allowing them to garner support mainly from highly populous areas that follow a different drummer. They rightly felt that latter would lead to the tail wagging the dog.
     
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    You win big cities and lose everywhere else. What's wrong with your message? You lost 5/6 of the counties...Based on the demonstrations the sane people are Republicans. Apparently living in big cities makes you a special kind of crazy...
     
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    That is the problem with democrats. They're city dwellers, and can't understand why us country bumpkins think differently. We know the government isn't going to feed us. We have to actually get up out of bed every morning and figure out how to put some vittles on the table. Our representatives aren't going to do that, but maybe they can get out of our way so that we can do that ourselves.

    Democrats depend on the government supplying them with everything from contraceptives to housing to food for their babies. They are statists because that's all they know.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ahhh...just like the donald trump will never be president predictions.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol. He means there is no popular vote and he is 100% correct. Do you remember voting in one?
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush won 50.7% of the popular vote in 2004. Get your facts straight.

    For the last (*)(*)(*)(*)ing time. The electoral college is unique because you don't have an executive within the legislature. We have a similar mechanism for electing our Prime Minister. We elect MPs who then are free to vote however they want on the PM. Stop this lie.

    The electoral college is simply an adaptation of how everyone else does it, but taking into account the separation of powers. Very few countries elect their leader by a straight national vote. Stop the lies.

    LIES.
     
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    Wrong, Global warming will save us all....well, most of us:

    Here is the map of where Trump won:

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    Here is what the US will look like when Global Warming kicks in:

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    Looks to me it is just a matter of time before democrat strongholds are submerged.
     
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    There is a popular vote but it only means something within the state ( and two counties in two separate states) in order to secure the EC votes. So on a cointrybwide basis the popular votes does not mean squatoski except to the infantile 12 year old mind of the Trump Turd.
     
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    Talk about standing truth on its head. It is utterly obvious to everyone save apparently you that the only people who truly give a damn who won the popularity contest are far left dems who have been whining about it since election day.
     
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    Your search for the 'increasingly radical' ends when you look in the mirror. The shore dwellers remind us of what Rome looked like under Nero. The decay of a civilized society, feeling superior to anyone who does not agree with them. Tolerance is a joke to liberals. You can load up your communities with all the wack-jobs and illegals you want... the Electorate will continue to allow the rest of the country to participate in the choice. Thank GOD!!
     
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    You forgot 2004
     
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    I wish more people knew their history so we can better avoid crap like this.
     
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    wasn't the Republican party supposed to have been dead 8 years ago now they control 2/3 of the country
    but what ever you want to believe to help you sleep at night
     
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    I am sure Democrats will quickly learn to breath under water. They have been practicing hard since the election.
     
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    You may be right. The reps views are no longer popular.

    To win votes nowadays you must be homo loving, abortion loving, legalized dope loving, god hating and illegal alien loving.

    Really I never thought we would have another rep prez until the fines on Obamcare were so onerous they took most of a person salary for not being able to afford useless health ins. Then I figured they would vote in a rep to get rid of Obamcare and then promptly vote in a dem go back to their homosexual, baby killing agenda and keep on the path of making Spanish the official language in America
     
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    GOP has already brought in a new voting block they just need to keep them. Study the race of toomey and Trump you will see the future of the GOP. I can link you to the numbers I ran if you want.
     
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    I think you're forgetting 2004, G.W. Bush 50.7%, Kerry 48.3%. It might be interesting to note that no candidate received 50% plus one vote in the presidential elections of 1992, 1996, 2000 or in 2016. Bush did in 2004, Obama in 2008 and 2012. So in reality, only three presidential candidates since 1988 beginning in 1992 out of seven was able to received the majority of America's vote. One Republican, two Democratic which was Obama twice.

    Now I think it all depends on the candidate more than the political party. The year Bush the elder won in 1988, Democrats outnumbered Republicans 35-30 with 31% identifying themselves as independents. That is according to Pew Research. During the Bill Clinton Era Democrats dropped to 33%, Republicans down to 28% and independents rose to 33%. Those numbers also averaged out for the second Bush administration or era. By 2012 Democrats still numbered 33% of the electorate, Republicans had dropped down to 25% and independents rose to 36%. Today or should I say on election day, November 8, 2016 Gallup put them figures at Democrats 30%, Republicans 27%, Independents 40%.

    This brings me back to candidates matter, since 1988 those who identify or affiliate with the Democratic Party has dropped 5 points, the Republican Party dropped 3 points while independent rose 9 points. The things is while the GOP moves further right, the Democrats move further left, both parties are leaving middle America behind, leaving middle America without a political home. Both political parties are viewed negatively by over 50% of all Americans.

    This election was between two very unpopular candidates. Outside of their avid supporters, they weren't liked at all. Independents, those not associated or affiliated with either party or candidate were give both Clinton and Trump an over 60% unfavorable rating. In the end independents decided they disliked Trump a bit less than Clinton giving him a 46-42 margin over Clinton. Yet 12% of them voted third party just so they didn't have to choose between two unpopular and I'll say it, hated candidates.

    In fact, this year third party candidates received 8 million votes, almost 5% of the electorate which voted refused to choose between them. Compare to 2012 when 1.8 million voted third party, 1.5% of the total vote. One has to wonder how many people stayed home and didn't register their disdain for both Clinton and Trump at the ballot box. Probably at least another 8 million who said to heck with it.

    Candidates matter and with 40% of the electorate now independents, the Republicans will be able to win a majority of the vote again. So too the Democrats. That is if either wake up and begin to offer decent candidates where one doesn't have to hold their nose and choose between two evils.
     
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    That's a good one. LOL

    You know it will be just a matter of days before the libs start claiming Trump wants to nuke the ice caps. All those tears will be on your shoulders.
     
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    Except the GOP hasn't moved as far to the right as Democrats have moved to the left.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/opinion/have-democrats-pulled-too-far-left.html?_r=0

    As for never winning again, it's possible. Sabotaging the nation's demographics by importing the Western hemisphere's poorest, least educated, and most dependent 3rd world people as immigrants has been working great for the Democratic party. Seems that some Democrats would rather rule a 3rd world trash heap than share power in an advanced developed Western society.
     
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    This argument is so stupid. Look at the real map of America. http://metrocosm.com/election-2016-map-3d/
     

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