Why do you need more than 10 rounds?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by TOG 6, Jan 24, 2017.

  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    More appropriately the question is, how exactly was it determined that not one single private individual in the united states, could ever possibly have a legitimate need or use for eleven or more rounds of ammunition? What was the exact methodology used in determining such? How is the amount not something chosen arbitrarily? What was the sound science that was used, that would prove the restriction was neither arbitrary nor capricious, in a manner that the supreme court would reject outright?
     
  3. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The 10-rd number is, of course, arbitrary and capricious, chosen for no sound reason.
     
  4. lemmiwinx

    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    8,069
    Likes Received:
    5,430
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why do you need more than a dozen eggs?

    You might have people coming over uninvited and it's always nice to have something easy to fix for them.
     
  5. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The use of the word "need" implies some requirement to justify any number. That's even more disturbing.
     
  6. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Indeed.
    Why do you "need" to vote for Democrats when you can vote for the Green party?
     
  7. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Youtubers like The Yankee Marshall, think in virtually all active shootings that a six shot revolver is enough.

    But it should be left to the individual on what they want to lug around. I often use a tiny KelTec .380. Sometimes I'll have a 10+1 .40, or a 15+1 9mm.

    One the other end of the YouTube spectrum is this.

    [video=youtube;NeBPpY6JkzQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeBPpY6JkzQ&t=105s[/video]
     
  8. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Supported by the fact that virtually every police force in the US issues them.

    I'm all for people carrying whatever they're comfortable with - but no one has ever come out the other side of a gunfight thinking his rounds hit too hard or he had too much ammunition.
     
  9. therooster

    therooster Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    13,004
    Likes Received:
    5,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Shall not be infringed . Simple , can you read ?
     
    Turtledude likes this.
  10. therooster

    therooster Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    13,004
    Likes Received:
    5,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think you need to read a little more closely.
     
  12. therooster

    therooster Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    13,004
    Likes Received:
    5,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Enlighten me please ! I'm sure I will learn a lot.
     
  13. SillyAmerican

    SillyAmerican Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2016
    Messages:
    3,678
    Likes Received:
    1,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Excellent questions. The number seems to be completely arbitrary and capricious.

    Indeed. And that's the bottom line.

    Yeah, RBG is lookin' like she's on her last leg. My money is on her being the next replacement SCOTUS justice nomination.
     
  14. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not a gun grabber.
     
  15. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2009
    Messages:
    30,071
    Likes Received:
    1,204
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I dunno...
    :confusion:
    ... mebbe `cause dey might be...

    ... 11 Indians?
    :omg:
     
  16. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah but that video is more geared towards first responders if I remember correctly, not your average Joe.

    It's been a while since I've watched it so I could be wrong. Besides, nothing wrong with being prepared. Especially if you live in some liberal lala land.
     
  17. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Whoever is first on the scene of an unexpected encounter is by default a first responder.
     
  18. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In reality, sure, but you're not required to deal with the situation like actual "first responders" like police, firemen, medical personnel, etc.

    I can run the other way, cops don't have that luxury.

    The "go bag" thing is a good idea but unless you want to leave it in your car all the time, I'm not sure it's worth the effort for the average person.
     
  19. whinot

    whinot Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2017
    Messages:
    183
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    because big bro has more than one thug to send against me, they wear armor, and they have 30+ rd magazines. The 2nd Amendment is about our right to resist tyranny, which means cops and troops. Most shots in combat, even at pistol type distances, completely miss the enemy. Our troops fire over 50,000 rds of rifle ammo for every hit that they get and only one hit in 4 is lethal.
     
  20. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If I didn't live such a relatively safe area, I'd see more of a need to carry a full-sized handgun and 3 extra extended magazines.

    Certainly if I lived in Ferguson or Baltimore with thugs and gangsters lurking around, I'd want Nutn's go bag on me. It's likely many there would not like my bright red Trump-Pence tee shirt.
     
  21. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Cops have no legal right to defend you. Even a SWAT member (theoretically) could walk away and get a cup of coffee if a firefight was too intense.

    At least around here the cops almost always run to the fight. We had a young man in our neighborhood high on drugs threaten his parents with a gun and made remarks about killing cops. 50 cops and 3 SWAT teams soon after detained him.
     
  22. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, they don't, not in the individual sense.

    They are, however, required to deal with something that threatens the public at large.
     
  23. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh yeah I hear ya brother. My winter carry is a shouldered P09 with 2 more mags. Better to have too much than too little.

    Nutn' is the man as far as I'm concerned. The hat I'm wearing right now has a velcro "TNP" badge on it.

    Double owl!
     
  24. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
  25. mtlhdtodd

    mtlhdtodd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,170
    Likes Received:
    238
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male

Share This Page