Hearing protection act: good for all

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  1. nimdabew

    nimdabew Member

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    To those that think the "silencer" is going to increase crime, you are wrong friends. Even the ATF has stated that suppressors are not used in crime and that their inclusion in the list of NFA items is a drain on resources. Here is a link to the "white paper" that was leaked a few days ago and the ATF's opinion on suppressors.

    http://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/batfe-white-paper-on-firearms-regulations.pdf
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Where is the link to the actual law, so that it may be reviewed, and determined what is held within it? Are thee any so-called poison pills that are currently attached to it?
     
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    I am sure that number will go up with easier access... just common sense
     
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    Really? Something that makes a gun bigger, harder to conceal, and heavier is going to be used in more crimes? The people that want to use it are not those doing a convince store robbery, but those trying to protect their hearing, the hearing of those around them when they shoot, and to reduce noise pollution at gun ranges.
     
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    Possibly, but not significantly. The benefit far outweighs the cost.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you were robbing a house, you might not want your gun to be heard, ect... so in some case yes, the rates woudl go up if access was easier

    I am not against the it, just saying the rates will rise...

    I do not approve of mandatory seat belt laws either, but common sense say if not required, the number of injured people in accidents not wearing one will go up

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    A suppressor reduces the sound of a gunshot from 160dB to 130dB. Look up how loud 130dB is.
     
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    Suppressors just kinda quiet things down a bit. They make a 5.56 more or less tolerable with no ear protection. They lose their luster after you see how unwieldy the guns can get for the added appendage. Still, it is ridiculous to charge $200 tax and the hassle to buy one. They are nice on a SBR if you ever have to use one indoors so you don't blow your ears out. Surefire are some of the best.
     
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    So-called silencers don't make guns silent like movies and TV show them. All they do is reduce the noise level of gun shots to a lower level, below the threshold for causing human harm.
     
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    Firearm suppressors do not stop the discharge of a firearm from being heard. It simply reduces the muzzle report to the point of not causing permanent hearing loss as a result. In basic decibel levels, discharging a firearm with an attached suppressor would still make as much commotion as a jackhammer.
     
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    This is true. Look near the bottom in red where the guns are listed and know that anything over 140 DB is concern for perminantly hearing loss. Supressor that reduce levels apx 30-35 dB would but the 170 dB noises down to the 140 dB levels, or approximately where the air raid siren, jet takeoff, and firecracker noise levels are. Not "silent" by any means, but definitely reduced from ear drum splitting levels of 165+.

    http://www.noisehelp.com/noise-level-chart.html
     
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    It was never a problem before they were regulated.
     

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