Are you Okay with the new retail White House?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by tecoyah, Feb 10, 2017.

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Do ethics rules still apply?

  1. No...Trump is a business man.

    4.8%
  2. Yes...the White House is not a storefront.

    52.4%
  3. As long as it does not effect national security.

    19.0%
  4. ....other....I'll explain

    28.6%
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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are many indications that our new President and his family intend to use the position and power to increase personal financial holdings regardless of tradition and ethics traditions and laws to prevent this. Do you find this to be acceptable?
     
  2. Genius

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    Please cite these "many indications".
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There should be a distinct line of demarcation between any President's administration, and his family's commercial enterprises, that should not be crossed. I expect some blurring of that line early on during the transition period, and I expect some minor transgressions of the rules from the inexperienced players who are new to the game, but I will be much less tolerant of any refusal to learn and comply, going forward.

    I consider Ms. Conway's recent endorsement of Trump's daughter's business, which I presume is amongst the 'many indications' you failed to cite, a newbie mistake that deserves a wrist slap, which she reportedly received. If she does it again, then it will merit a closer look.
     
  4. Bowerbird

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    No but then I was never happy with Cheney's links to Halliburton either
     
  5. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Melania has indicated she was going to exploit her role as first lady

    Melania Trump plans to cash-in on trademarks, files new lawsuit
    Her lawsuit asserts the escort story damaged her chances of profiting from her high profile, which expanded when she married Donald Trump in 2005 but has soared since he was elected president in November and the Slovenian native became the first foreign-born first lady in nearly two centuries.

    Trump's filing claims she "had the unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person, as well as a former professional model, brand spokesperson and successful businesswoman, to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multi-million dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which Plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world.”

    Those product categories could have included apparel, accessories, jewelry, cosmetics, hair care and fragrance, among others, the lawsuit says.

    But hold the outrage — Trump's attorney, California media lawyer Charles Harder, insists that doesn't mean she intends to monetize her new role as critics have implied.

    "The first lady has no intention of using her position for profit and will not do so," Harder said in an emailed statement to USA TODAY. "It is not a possibility. Any statements to the contrary are being misinterpreted."

    But when pressed for a reason for why her lawsuit contains such language, Harder did not respond..


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ail-libel-lawsuit-first-lady-profit/97590284/
     
  6. Ole Ole

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    I want Trump or new republican AND a female Haley new president in U.S. of A.
     
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    If you are president, you are no longer a private citizen; in my opinion, everything the president does should be closely monitored for both his and our safety. Then, things like this won't happen.
     
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    So peoplexwho voted for this clown because he is a businessman must be happy that he is using the Office of The Swamp to run his business.
     
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    There should be a distinct line of demarcation between any President's administration, and his family's commercial enterprises, that should not be crossed. I expect some blurring of that line early on during the transition period, and I expect some minor transgressions of the rules from the inexperienced players who are new to the game, but I will be much less tolerant of any refusal to learn and comply, going forward.
     
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    The Conway blurp can be considered a rookie "mistake" but for this White house but Conway is no rookie to the political groupie scene. I understand that she was a pegboard for GOP Senators going back to the late 1970's. What is more disturbing is that the Trump clan with their patriarch at the helm seems to believe that since they are Trumpeizdas that they are entitled to the spoils of political warfare. They think that since they captured the WH they can run a commercial operation out of the People's House. Hey why not Ivanka is not only daughter of the Real-estate/Retail emperor she is the ALT-First Lady after all so she has the right to run her fiefdom.
     
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    I love it. The Clintons did it but they got their cash from our enemies .
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can immerse yourself in this bubble of partisan fantasy-spin if you want to, but I will wait and see how it shakes out before I pass any judgement. I imagine there will be a number of incidents where the anti-establishment non-politician runs afoul of the rules purely out of newbie ignorance of the job, and will need correction. We shall see how they take the corrections, and if they persist, or learn and comply.
     
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    The one commercial enterprise that amuses me because the talking heads seem to not have caught on to it yet is when he knocks Arnold for his poor performance on 'The Apprentice'. Do you think that donald, being executive producer, brings this topic up at such unusual times because he wants you to 'not' watch the show? Or do you think that perhaps it's an opportunity to spike your interest so you will check it out and fatten his wallet some more?
     
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    Still will Clinton vs Cruz after Trump's saying that in Supreme Court about 3-4 days his contract gone in winter moonlight or will Trump all ready gets Haley as president Haley how is fit for fight in the 2020, 2024 AND 2028 trippel choose for citizens.

    Haley is well for 2020. If Clinton win 50 states poll this time against Cruz she will win well or can a suprise if when Cruz win a campaign he could win in 2016 but citizens choose Trump of republicans to president duel within a victory against Clinton.

    She is nervous before the second meeting that she should take home victory ? Would maybe now Clinton if she invests the most money for the last meeting, and again she had to win because she is no winner if she lose again. Big loser 2nd chanch.
     
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    If Cruz managed to win the first chance for him it is a great pleasure for him for a long time since a Catholic won the election. Cruz is the right focus in politics as Trump right ? But maybe it is Clinton next election or only after Court yes right ?

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    I will say that Cruz are Fascist like Bush Jr ?!
     
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    It's times for Trump to say goodbye now when he realize that Clinton are correkt takes over yes right.

    Or Cruz will new election between republican choose Cruz vs Democrat choose Clinton however ?

    Maybe two border is funnier with no border control and then illegal immigration is OKEY for citizens.

    :confusion:
     
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    Sorry, it takes too much effort to interpret what you're saying.
     
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    So far happy but it maybe he will change his job life to Clinton or Cruz in finally new election. Clinton have big chanches for winning or she must win for in versa thing if she lose again she is big loser two campaigns this season in presentials election campaigns.

    Theoretic chanches for Cruz if 99 % all men's want him and 2 percent of women want this Fascist Catholic with rule in Canada from begun or if Trump justifice for Clinton so she are new president about 4 days forward after Supreme Court if Trump want.

    Businessman and Nationalist to RW are not safety. Nationalists in Middle are safety.

    Maybe Trump want Clinton right now ?
     
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    It worked for the Clintons and Obama. With Bill you could buy nuclear secrets, Hillary had a sale on uranium and state favors. Obama sold more guns through Fast and Furious and by threats of gun control than all the K-Marts and guns stores in the country.
     
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    NO, I don't like that a so-called Republican is acting like a democrat. Look at how rich Clinton got after the Presidency.
     
  21. Right is the way

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    It does not matter if you like it or not you are not an American citizen.
     
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    I don't remember you squawking about Hillary making millions for pay for play during her time in the State Dept.

    Is this the best you can do, with a Trump staffer complaining about Trump's kid being victimized?
     
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    pfft... wait till the Wall of Trump is up, he'll be running tours and erection... I mean erecting statues all over it
     
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    No because ethics starts at the top.

    The Conway thing? Maybe a mistake. Little TrumpCo in South America spending State Department money on a business venture? Questionable? Melania sitting in on a meeting with the PM of a country which owns a business with which she is trying to gain traction? Unseemly...

    Ethical lapses? Honest mistakes? Happenstance?

    What happens when these ethical questionable areas start drifting down into the administration?

    I'm making no accusations here. But, where there is smoke, eventually there will be fire.
     
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    He has Stephen Bannon right there to be his fall guy if push comes to shove. Maybe he can hire Ollie North just to have a spare.
     

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