Domestic Terrorists are getting Guns

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  1. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    The far left extremists are now openly urging their members to get guns.

    https://itsgoingdown.org/know-gun-rights-primer-radicals/
    (Caution: diversityoftactics web site has questionable security certificates, and is prone to giving you a virus, go to it at your own peril) https://diversityoftactics.org/2017/01/21/why-the-left-wing-needs-a-gun-culture/

    Who are these people? From "itsgoingdown": We are a network of friends and comrades across so-called North America that seeks to provide news and analysis of when it goes down: riots, strikes, sabotage, occupations, expropriations, rebellion, revolt, insurrection, whether together or alone – we support liberatory revolt. You get the point.

    And who is diversityoftactics? From their site: "Diversity of tactics is a strategy for mass civil disobedience in which a movement makes periodic use of force for defensive or disruptive purposes, stepping beyond the limits of nonviolence, but also stopping short of militarization. History shows this to be the most effective form of direct action for social revolution......Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods or tactics or strategy to reach a common goal."

    Note the part highlighted in red - they mean to achieve their goals through any means, the ends justify the means, for them abandoning the law is a perfectly valid approach.


    Having lost a significant amount of political power, and realizing that the "progressive" agenda is now facing strong opposition, the far left has dropped its pretense of peaceful transformation and has resorted to open violence. Their goal - as the statements above show - is to "fundamentally transform" the USA into a totalitarian state by any means possible.

    Both of the sites listed above support Antifa - in the protests in DC and Berkeley, those are the people moving as a block, who are dressed all in black, faces covered, breaking windows and burning cars and stores and beating people. Antifa is a far left international terrorist organization, a violent group, started in Europe in the 1970's.

    People better stop thinking that the "progressives" are just having a temper tantrum over Trump, that all the lefties will do is whine and pout, and that the Left has been somehow defeated. The Left won't give up that easily. They won't admit defeat, they are zealots and will fight with every means possible.

    The Left is resorting to violence, that's obvious, all you have to do is watch the news. Its going to get worse. Can you imagine the DC riots but instead of rioters using sticks and rocks, they use guns and firebombs? Instead of running from the police, these far left terrorists decide to shoot it out with police? Or they "occupy" an area and defend it with firearms as they destroy and burn the buildings in their occupation zone? Or the far left turns to assassination of politicians, murdering random innocent people just to cause chaos? That's their history, and its coming to the USA.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tolerant liberals love themselves some good ol fashioned drive-bys. Maybe a good looting over at the CVS with hundreds of people with their faces covered. Gotta love those tolerant liberals.
     
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    Sounds like a good idea considering the far-right has been building up stockpiles for decades.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you agree with left wing violence?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So-----------------------------are you admitting all the gun laws dont work?????????????
     
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    An going out into the woods and playing war games.

    So the right now have a problem with the left following their example for some strange reason?

    - - - Updated - - -

    So the second amendment only apply to Trump voters?
     
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    This coming from folks who likely carry a weapon on their hip?
    And I've seen advocating 2nd amendment rights if things didn't go their way? Are they hypocrites?
     
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    Demonstrate evidence of individuals who are classified as conservatives, utilizing firearms and the threat of violence over not getting their way.
     
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    So the site you are using is so crackpot that you have to give a warning?!?!

    How about using real sources next time?
     
  10. Battle3

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    You don't get it. Its the willingness to be violent that is the issue.

    When obama won and violated the Constitution and conservatives were locked out of the system, did the conservatives go into the streets and riot? Did they turn to violence? No.

    But when the Left lost in November, they immediately turned violent, rioting and burning and beating.

    Conservatives view firearms as a check on the excesses of government, as well as for defense against criminals. Violence is a last resort.

    Leftists (as the links in post #1 show) view violence as valid approach to getting their way. For them, violence is just as valid and appropriate as a peaceful march or letter writing.
     
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    You think violence is free speech? No wonder you are confused.
     
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    We have rioting laws. We have clan laws against demonstrating while hooded. We have laws against violating the civil rights of others. And a criminal record removes your gun rights. So answer remains the same. Enforce the law against these leftwing mobs and the clan laws against those that wear hoods.
     
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    As you well know, there is no loophole in federal law with regard to background checks - it is impossible to legally avoid them.
    And as you well know, it is a federal felony to buy a gun in another state and not transfer it though an FFL in your state.
    Knowing these things as you do, why do you embarrass yourself with posts such as these?
     
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    Violence, IMO, shouldn't even be a last resort.
    The protesters on the left are able to do it, because they don't have jobs, so they fill their time protesting.

    BTW - just how many turned violent of all the protests taking place. 1 is to many, but how many were there? Besides the staged on at Berkeley. Done by professional rioters.

    Leftists view violence? You mean this 1 group. Not all leftists?
     
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    Battle3, these people are just anarchists. They live for the violence and chaos. They have been using social media to organize for some time now.

    The internet has it's useless trolls and virus makers. Well, these people are society's trolls. Some of them have dead-end jobs, some leech off their parents or a girlfriend, some live through petty crime.

    They are cowards, and would not likely use guns, because, as we all know, citizens and police in this country shoot back.

    I have a solution for these people. It's called "statutory maximums" and "consecutive sentences". For example: Let's say one of these people pulls a dumpster out into a street and sets the trash in it on fire. This is not arson in my state because it's not setting a building on fire. This is called "Reckless burning" in my state, and it is a misdemeanor punishable by one year in jail. But it is also considered "Disorderly Conduct" to block a street, a lower misdemeanor, punishable by 6 months in jail. When arrested, typically, these two charges are plea bargained. The defendant is given a fine, placed on probation (maybe), and perhaps told to do 30 days in jail with credit for time served and "good time". They're back out in a week or two. Disorderly Conduct is usually punished with just a fine, no jail.

    What I suggest is that the defendant do the entire year in jail for the Reckless Burning and that the defendant also be sentenced to 6 months for Disorderly Conduct to be served after the year served for Reckless Burning; that is, consecutively. The person would be locked up for 18 months.

    I think of the video of that young lady in her car in Portland who was trapped by a protest-turned-riot. Someone had smashed her windshield. Crimes: Criminal Mischief, Reckless Endangering, and Menacing. Each is a misdemeanor with a one year maximum jail sentence. I say, charge and convict for all 3, impose the statutory maximum on each, and make them serve the sentences consecutively. They would be locked up for 3 years.

    If police and courts started doing this, this s**t would stop overnight. These people are punks.

    My two cents ... :oldman:
     
  18. Battle3

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    Really? These people openly reject the law, they advocate for violence. Their entire intent is to break the law in order to overthrow the law. The threat of "enforce the law" means nothing to them.
     
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    That needs to change.
     
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    Let's try actually locking them up for the statutory maximums in the laws they break, and we'll see just how dedicated they are to their cause.

    100 bucks says they go away.
     
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    During the election, who used paid imposters to pretend to be Trump supporters and engaged in violence so Trump would be smeared? "progressives"

    Who admitted he had engaged in this type of "false flag" activity for many years? "progressive" and long time Democrat operative Robert Creamer.

    How many Trump events were plaqued with violent protests, how many Trump supporters were beaten?

    Go back to the Tea Party, how many Tea Party people were beaten by "union" members?

    Look at "occupy" and BLM, and their violence.

    Violence is integral to "progressives". Watch the news.
     
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    Two of those right wingers blow up a federal building killing hundreds not to mention that the so call bible of the far right The Turner Diary gave a blue print for that very attack.

    Not the most peaceful movement in history.
     
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    Compared to what is being observed presently among those who identify as liberals?
     
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    All Liberals, Progressives, Feminists, Muslims, Hispanics, Jews, need to arm themselves NOW!!!!
     
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    And you're doing publicity for them?
     

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