Magnitude of Trump adviser Flynn's Russia scandal gains clarity

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  1. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/magnitude-of-trump-adviser-flynn-s-russia-scandal-gains-clarity-874908739801?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma

    So to boil it down Micheal Flynn, Trump's national security advisor, held talks with Russian officials before the election about the then newly instituted sanctions against Russia for its hacking of democrat email servers during the election.

    Flynn reached out to a foreign power engaging in espionage and the deliberate subversion of our democratic election process to put into power Donald Trump, and told them not to worry that the sanctions would be removed when Trump was in the white house.

    That my friends is direct collusion with a foreign power to rig an election.

    And to make things even worse vice president Pence put his own butt in the frying pan by covering for Flynn who was then outted by senior diplomatic and intelligence officials with a direct transcript of the phone calls proving he was lying.

    You can't make this stuff up. These are complete idiots who think that they are above the law but have no idea how see through their plots are.
     
  2. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    first of all your not my true friend :wink:second is was supposedly about that he had discussions over sanctions not rigging a election :nana:
     
  3. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Discussing the removal of sanctions for Russian hacking of the election....from a high level Trump official...during Trump's presidential campaign which directly benefited from the Russian hacking.

    Uh...you can't lay that out any more clearly.
     
  4. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have anything from a credible source, or should we just assume it more fake news?
     
  5. Denizen

    Denizen Well-Known Member

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    The USA administration has become a cheap reality show.

    I want the right to vote some of the losers and clowns off every week.
     
  6. EggKiller

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    So where are these direct transcripts? Let's see em.
     
  7. ararmer1919

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    Ummm... this phone call happened AFTER the election. Trump had already won. Just waiting a few more days tell he was sworn in. He was already presiden by all but oath. How exactly did this phone call influence our democratic process and aid in rigging the election... which was already more then a month over? Jesus Christ you libs sure do know how to aim low.
     
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    It's all sour grapes. Those traitors, remnants of Obama's administration are afraid of him. They've never forgiven him for telling the truth to the world. If you observe carefully, honourable Mr Flynn is the one they are all after. Especially guys who colluded with MB.

    Ex-DIA boss Michael Flynn: White House took "willful decision" to fund, train Syria Islamists ISIS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccdeANvo2bg
     
  9. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Try watching the video.

    Flynn called before the election, more than once. The calls have been confirmed and no less than nine diplomatic and intelligence agency officials have confirmed it,

    Try again,
     
  10. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone can talk to any Russian they want to.

    The Democratic Party and such as the OP message certainly can be ultra rightwing neocon warmongers ranting Joseph McCarthy Red Scare fear mongering in their pursuit of war. But that does not equate to law. Hilary Clinton lost. You do not get her wish of the USA assassinating Russians nor war against Russia over Syria.

    There would be nothing illegal for General Flynn to talk to the Russian ambassador including about the election.
     
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    Of course ignoring that the GOP Congress also was pushing for backing Syrian rebels.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So? Just because you may have a huge bigotry against Russian that only means it is your problem.
     
  13. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Uh you might wanna rethink that. Directly undermining the US government as an official breaks federal law.


    Try again.

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    Haha oh don't make me laugh.

    Let me guess you think the communists run a ship shape state and are glorious leaders of the free world.
     
  14. In The Dark

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    Three months ago, baby. Your side blew it.
     
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    Oh please, even WaPo has debunked this baloney. I do love though how you've made conclusions regarding the basis of the calls and other conspiracy tales of election rigging.

    Nice touch.

    The FBI investigated this and found NOTHING.

    I know libs will do anythign to avoid the fact that the DNC was exposed for the corrupt party actually doing the "rigging" during the election though.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.b7d454ed4f76
     
  16. Surfer Joe

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    This could be the start of trump's watergate moment.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LMAO...You know what's fake? The nonsense at the bottom of your post-

    When reagan left office, he had ladled billions in tax cuts for his rich supporters and left the country with the worst debt and budget deficits in history, which sapped our national potential and led to many of the problems we face today.
    In case we forget, he was also responsible for emboldening terrorism when he cut and ran from Beirut after the barracks bombing incident.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You wish?? [​IMG] Sorry to disappoint you - it won't be, because president Trump is nowhere near as stupid as you think.
     
  19. Cal-Pak

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    The NSA doesn't usually release transcripts of phone conversations of the phones they are tapping.

    At least to those of us in the general population.
     
  20. Derideo_Te

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    It would be nice to give Trump credit for only being stupid like Bush jr was.

    Unfortunately Trump is far worse than stupid!

    Trump is an ignorant, arrogant narcissistic wannabe despot!

    Initially I gave him 2 years before they began impeachment proceedings.

    Now I am beginning to doubt that he is going to even make it that far.

    At some point even the GOP is going to be forced to cry foul and take him down just for the sake of their own credibility with We the People.
     
  21. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. Trump's problem is not intelligence. He is smart enough to do the job.
    But he lacks the character to be potus.
    Bush jr had character and he evidently loved his country and its people.
    Trump cares nothing about anyone else and his whole approach to life has always been, 'who can I cheat and what can I get away with?'
    His downfall will come from his pathologically defective character.
    He's already whining about the independent judiciary and the free press and he's only been around a month.
    These are the foundations of our country and our freedoms, and if he thinks he can attack them with his temper tantrums, he doesn't have a clue about how the country works.
    Trump has set the tone for his regime, and his chumps need to stop whining that their so-called president is being treated the same way as he treats others.

    Doonesbury had a good take on what's happening-
    http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2017/02/12
     
  22. Tim15856

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    There's no shortage of war mongers on the GOP side either, just look to McCain. However, as I recall, the WH was claiming to only arm rebel 'moderates'. Perhaps, the GOP was not aware that the WH was also arming jihadists.
     
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    The same could be said of Obama, only he was a much smoother talker. If Obama had 99% of the MSM constantly bashing him, calling him names, and insulting him without rest, I bet he would have lashed out too. As far as being a despot, look no further than Obama.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/...ump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html?_r=0

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...apper-obama-has-used-espionage-act-more-all-/

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015...ime-of-all-prior-u-s-presidents-combined.html

    Let's not forget the innocent film maker railroaded by the Obama admin to cover for their screwup.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/1...d-after-attack-now-lives-in-poverty-fear.html
     
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    This story started at the Washington Post and yes they indeed do make things up.
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    Sure you can make it up, you just did.
     

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