Hello, this will be my first post as it outlines my present political beliefs and it will be a Poll, as from more nuanced people I'd like to get an understanding of whether I am more of a Republican, Democrat or Libertarian (the three main political philosophies in the US). I know political labels are not the greatest thing as it puts people into boxes but I would like to have an idea with at least what I should identify with, in general. Note: Some of my views may not be tolerated, but I hope we can learn to be civil about our differences and debate them, I assume that is the point of this website. I've been around far too many people that want to banish you for having different beliefs, I came here because I wanted to be in a place where that wouldn't happen. I think it's okay to think another person is dead wrong about something but I don't think it should ever evolve into ugly arguments at least with regards to Politics. I strongly disagree with some people too but as long as they respect me, I respect them. Socially, I consider myself quite 'Liberal' but not to the extent that many modern Leftists have taken it. For example, I am Pro-Choice on Abortions, and I am for privatizing Marriage. I believe in Religious Liberty. I think back in the day I would have been considered a Liberal socially for sure, being Pro-Choice on Abortions and not wanting to kill or harm Homosexuals. Today, though, I am not so sure. I think modern Liberals are against Religious Liberty, and Dave Rubin from Rubin Report did a video on the 'Regressive Left' and how being against Religious Liberty is not really Liberal but Regressive. I would have to agree. I don't think I would be solidly Republican, Democrat or Libertarian on Social Issues, because I am for funding Planned Parenthood, and Libertarians and Republicans wouldn't like that, and obviously the Democrats are moving more Left and probably wouldn't like me being for Religious Liberty. Economically, I really honestly don't know what I would be considered. I am for universal Healthcare, but I think Obamacare has been a disaster. I support a voucher system. I am Pro-Workfare (not Welfare) and I am just generally for Free Markets within a country's borders. I am completely against Free Trade, however. On The Environment, I am for controls to stop Pollution, for health reasons, but I do not believe in Global Warming. I really don't know if I'm Republican, Democrat or Libertarian here. For Education, I like charter schools but I am not big on homeschooling, despite being homeschooled myself and having turned out well (I think). Homeschooling is still opening up a can of worms personally and I think I wouldn't have had to leave Public School in the first place if it was better, which is my point. Education definitely needs reform, but I don't think more homeschooling is the answer. I'd say charter schools. I also think schools have too much political bias and I'd like a law dissallowing that. I am Pro-Gun Rights and Pro-Hunting. I am for legalizing Marijuana. I am for a very strong Military for defense purposes. I like Israel but I do not consider myself to be a Neoconservative. I am against War. On Immigration, I am fine with Legal Immigration but I am not okay with Illegal Immigration and I am against Amnesty. I'm not sure if a Border Wall is a necessary deterrent (you could just take away the allure of welfare for Illegals) but, you know. At least Trump wants to do SOMETHING about it. On the Refugees, I am personally against taking any in, and I know that is a heated topic, but I think the threat ISIS poses is too great and we have to put our citizens first, as unpleasant as that may be. Of course, any of this could change. I look forward to seeing where I'd fit best because I think my views are all over the place. I also look forward to contributing here. Thank you. Also, as far as politicians that I agree with, I did support (and still support) Trump. Other than that I have not done much supporting, I am relatively new to Politics actually.
Like most people, you believe the end justifies the means when the end appeals to you, and against the means when the end doesn't appeal. Politically, you are about center of the road.
Welcome to the 'trench warfare' that we call Politicalforum. Through more than eight years in this forum I can say that its population is as divided and polarized as the nation at-large, and thus it is fairly representative of the country's "thinking", if we could put it that way. I'll spare you any of my own partisan viewpoints; after all, I'm LONG since past trying to win any 'converts'. Here are some observations, and some may surprise you. Conservatives, like myself, tend to be "conservative" almost entirely on fiscal issues that pertain directly to the economy, and "who gets what". Very few Conservatives here are the nosy, personally invasive, "social" kind, that want to overturn Roe v Wade and that kind of thing. We want to mind our own business, make our own fortunes, keep our own money, and restrict welfare only to those who CANNOT support themselves because of verifiable disease, injury, birth defects, etc. We are absolutely allergic to more and more and more government inflicting itself (and an increasing, unfair tax load) on average American citizens. We demand that people take responsibility for themselves, obey the law, support the Constitution, and suffer the consequences if they refuse. Liberals here tend to support social programs, welfare programs, and government handouts. Many are Millennials who seem to have grown up with no clear idea of what it means to take personal responsibility for anything, and prefer to identify themselves in clusters, hives, or other social groupings where the individual is almost non-existent. Thus, they move along in a sort of amorphous mass of vague liberal viewpoints, whose beliefs, vocabulary, and behaviors are prescribed by mainstream media show hosts, movie stars, and other social luminaries. No matter what opinions or beliefs you espouse, you will be alternately attacked, or supported, by opponents or like-minded supporters. If one kind of person could be voted as "acceptable" by nearly everyone here it would be someone who is somewhat Libertarian, but with a very accommodating idea of what a government "safety net" should be, along with an abundance of various kinds of "subsidies" and other welfare programs. Both hardcore Liberals and Conservatives are villified, cursed, marginalized, and ignored, and "soldiers" of each of those hardcore camps make up the inhabitants of the 'trenches' in the "trench warfare" I mentioned at the beginning of this post. There is no cure for it. There will be no end to it. We of both the Left and the Right in 'the West' will go down fighting each other like mad dogs until both camps are finally overcome by the combined mentality, will, and might of Russia and China. But, that will take at least another ten years, so, come, play along, and enjoy the festivities.
Post a picture of yourself. Many Democrats on this forum can know everything about a person just by looking at the person. For example, to the Democratic Party and many of their submissives if you are older and a white male, you are a neo-nazi, racist, mysogynist, xenophobe, homophobic high school dropout and Christian fascist Trumpazoid. - - - Updated - - - People will have to stop listening to the Democratic Party, the entrenched "intelligence community" and the media/press outlets owned by the global super rich and mega international corporations.
Need you to expose more about yourself. What are your opinions on nation building and using the U.S. military for nation building. Both are supported by liberals and RINO neoconservatives. What are your opinions of cultural-marxism aka political correctness and forced social engineering on society ? Do words hurt your feelings ? Are you a military veteran ? What type of guns do you own ? Do black scary looking rifles scare you ? Do you own a fishing pole ? When you go to bed at night do you count your white bed sheets and pillow cases and look under your bed for a klansman, NRA member or a Russian ? Do you use politically incorrect words like terrorism, Islamic terrorist or jihadist ? Do you own an American flag ? Have you played with Play Dough or used crayons and a coloring book during the past 3 1/2 months ?
To be perfectly honest, I think you're just extremely Libertarian (not in the US term, like actual Libertarian). You're pro-legalization of a lot of things. You dislike government involvement in stuff, but are moderate on certain involvements. I can't say that I agree with you on much here, but it's neat to see people break those damned party lines.
Democrats have much to offer us all! Conservatives (not RINO's) have much to offer us all as well. We could learn from each other, and compromise like we did when we were truly a GREAT nation. Reagan compromised. Clinton compromised. Every president who was ever worth a damn learned the art of compromise. But now we will not compromise, no matter what. The international economic hegemony of central bank combines drive all important decisions in "the West" and they have done so exclusively since August 2007. The Federal Reserve... the European Central Bank... the Bank of Japan... on and on. It's over. It's done. There are two major nations in the world that have resisted control from international bankers -- Russia and China. They will rule ALL, and it'll take them another 10 - 15 years to bring this about. I'll probably be dead by then. Cheers! And good luck.... . "The Americans are (*)(*)(*)(*)ED... and they're too stupid to know it!"
Of course he is. He's a typical centrist who assumes the "issues" presented to him by the powers that be are the same ones he should be concerned with, and that the correct position on those "issues" is among or between the options presented to him by the powers that be. The only one that he's seen clear to think outside the state on is marriage. He's a perfect centrist, moderate, AKA statist.
President Trump has compromised. The Democrats have not - and call Trump a liar when he does compromise. He compromised on pursuing ALL illegal immigrants. The Democratic Party calls him a liar and Hitler at the same time. He has compromised his stance of Russia from particularly friendly to cautious and critical - but not threatening. He has appointed numerous cabinet members who openly disagree with him on topics of the position. He has appointed people who endorsed his political opponents in the primary. His Supreme Court nominee is a compromise - someone 100% of Democrats had voted for - rather than a hard right or partisan Republican. However, the Democratic Party just keeps running to more radical positions openly seeking anarchy, riots, and non-stop incessant hate attacks not only against President Trump but against over half the American public.
Your post is exactly why Trump won. The parties try to subdivide US into issue voters. Most voters aren't looking to overturn Roe....Most voters aren't trying to shove government mandated health care down everybody's throat. Most voters are FOR more jobs, higher wages an less political turmoil. Trump zeroed in on our actual problems. Illegal immigration, ISIS and an under performing economy. We can't have a country with illegals populating our States, we can't have a country that is threatened by a foreign enemy, we can't have a country that is so hampered by draconian government oversight and regulation that it is just skidding along the economic bottom.
You seem like a centrist libertarian. Milton Friedman with a bit of market leftism thrown in for balance.
Radical Democrats launched a raging froth against Trump within mere hours after it became known that he had been elected! The psychological civil war went full-tilt and it will never stop now. The hyperliberal, radical wing of the Democrat Party will not (NOT) compromise on anything. They forget that when Obama took over in 2009, there was no effort on THEIR part to compromise. Obama said, in essence, he had won and if anybody didn't like it, well, TOO (*)(*)(*)(*)ING BAD! Today, in 2017, it will simply be scorched-earth and trench warfare of various kinds. Each major political faction is clawing at each other's throats. The best that we on the Right can do is hope that Trump puts judges into the court system and Justices on the Supreme Court who don't tear the Constitution to pieces with revisionist "interpretations", like Obama's additions, Sotomayor and Kagan, have. Meanwhile, Russia and China will continue to do exactly what is in their own best interests, and they will work together to achieve their common goals in Europe, Africa, and Asia. In ten years, the United States will have become a disjointed puddle of Socialism-lite mush, where the Left will eventually overcome the Right because, frankly, the Boomers will be dying off and Millennials will rise to take over completely. They've been bred to perfection to follow the lock-step herd-mentality of a generation that has known little but almost complete dependency on a big Welfare State government to give it cohesion and identity. It's OVER. It's all but FINISHED. Russia, China, and their allies will rule and control everything of consequence in the world,. and American Millennials will still be sitting on their stupid, confused asses, playing at some variation of Facebook, Twitter, or some other laughable waste of time. I'll probably be dead by then, as I said, and so it won't affect me at all. Enjoy the continuing ride downward... it should be thrilling... for a while.... ."Americans? Hell, they don't even know where they can go pee!"
If you really need others to tell you ... you are confused. As one American to another ... welcome to the machine. Now can i see some ID?
