Anyone else concerned with the FBI/CIA/NSA becoming so political?

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Are you concerned about the FBI/CIA/NSA becoming so political?

  1. Yes, the intelligence community is trying too much to influence officials & public opinion

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  2. No, their job is to anonymously warn of all dangers

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  3. It depends who they are trying to ruin or control

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  4. Other opinion

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In this election season from the start until now, there has been an endless flow of "unnamed sources" making scandal declarations offering no proof whatsoever other than we should believe whatever the alleged no-name person allegedly said because they are a "source within the FBI, NSA or intelligence community." Under currently all of it is the theme that we MUST escalate the expenses and efforts against Russia by dramatically increasing our FBI/CIA/NSA and military staffing and budgets even more.

    Such agencies use to report any finding of potential wrongdoing to a secret grand jury and/or Congress. There were real people with real names and real evidence. Now it is just outright secret source politiking for increasing their power, budgets, staffing and controlling elected officials by no-evidence anonymous allegations.

    The single most significant quote by anyone in the entire political season wast the Democratic leader of the US Senate, Senator Chuck Schumer, who warned President Trump not to buck or criticize the "intelligence community" because “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” An astonishing statement outright claiming the intelligence community is essentially in full control - and all elected officials know it. Any elected official should be fully free to "take on" the intelligence community goals, personnel or activities without fear of an anonymous political smear campaign by the FBI, CIA or NSA.

    This would maybe explain why we are in endless conflicts, wars, messing with Russia, China, all over the Middle East and elsewhere. Constant bombings and drone strikes. Endlessly warning China and Russia are about to take over. Non-stop warning of terrorism everywhere and how we are to support or oppose someone in every conflict - many we create - switching sides when one side or the other is winning to make it perpetual.

    Every government agency always wants more staff, more money and more power. The size of the "intelligence agencies" and their budgets continue to skyrocket - but they always claim they need still more.

    Is anyone else concerned by how intensely the "intelligence community" is trying to control foreign policy, military policy, budget policy and even domestic policy by threatening to scandalize any official going against their wishes during and after elections?
     
  2. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Schumer seems to think it's perfectly OK for Federal agencies to go rogue and try to impose their own policy preferences. That's crazy, and hopefully Trump better figure out who these people are who buried in the "deep state" and start firing people.
     
  3. Homer J Thompson

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    Hey, I want to start a poll but seems like if I check the poll box and select a number nothing is added or changes...? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thnx

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    I think we are seeing how a non-politician has difficulty with the corrupt system. He needs some help to drain the swamp, its nastier than we ever thought.
     
  4. Strasser

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    The correct term to be used in the OP is 'criminal', not 'political'; the FBI/CIA/NSA bureaucrats leaking what is turning out to be nothing but innuendo fodder committed criminal acts.
     
  5. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No more than I was six months, a year or a decade ago. Maybe the question should be why are some people suddenly so concerned now when they’ve not made a peep about these long-established concerns in the past?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said 'other' because I wouldn't classify the entire community in being involved in criminal activity. Although we have seen that the intelligence community under Obama was a dismal failure in many ways. How many terrorists killed innocent Americans after having FBI contact? Who told Obama that ISIS was the JV team? Snowden blowing the whistle on Obama's massive spying on civilians and allies was yet another failure. Perhaps its time the 'intelligence community' was thoroughly vetted and set to the proper task of protecting this country instead of being political tools to hacks like Obama. Maybe Trump can resurrect it, depends entirely on how far the rot goes...
     
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    This is whats done in 3rd world nations or the US when Hoover headed the FBI and had stuff on everyone. Do we want the intel services running this nation ?
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Apparently the media and the Democratic Party say yes.
     

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