A ‘Shadow Cabinet’ to Restrain Trump

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A ‘Shadow Cabinet’ to Restrain Trump -
    Sharp critiques of extreme policies from eminent ex-officials​



    By DAVID ROBERTS
    2/15/2017


    We need to make America great again, and for that Donald Trump might be our man. For all the anxiety the White House has caused, brewing constitutional crises at home and anger abroad, Mr. Trump has opened a path to reunify this politically divided nation.
    A “team of rivals” that transcends party lines, composed of eminent men and women, could rein in the administration. This bipartisan group, preferably endorsed by past U.S. presidents, would be made up of former cabinet members and heads of independent federal agencies. Inspired by the British Shadow Cabinet, it would be structured to mirror the official cabinet and would issue rapid, sharp critiques and cogent alternatives to the administration’s most dangerous policies.
    By becoming a recognizable public fixture, the group would wield the clout necessary to compete with the White House’s megaphone, offering the disgruntled public a clear opposing stance rather than the disparate, and sometimes desperate, efforts today. The group would provide the opposition much-needed focus by identifying the most destructive policies and pronouncements: some examples from the first few weeks include antagonizing our allies, forcing through an ill-considered immigrant ban, undermining the judicial system, and politicizing the National Security Council.

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    Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-shadow-cabinet-to-restrain-trump-1487203029


    Odd isn't it, how no one thought this necessary during the Clinton and radical Obama years. Politics do make strange bedfellows when people such as Barry Obama, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio join together to fight against the fairly elected Donald J. Trump. OMG, politicizing the National Security Council? Didn't Susan Rice and Samantha Powers do that?
    IMO, All past Presidents who join this Shadow Government need to be indicted and tried for sedition. Mr. Tillerson is on a quest to clean out that 7th floor at the State Department as starters. I guess that Obama's OFA will have several RINO's in the crowd. All funded by Soros.


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  2. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Surely the crickets are silenced by the truth. Funny isn't it interesting how roaches scatter when someone turns on the light or let's the sun shine in.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    These people are idiots ,,, undermining the best chance we've had to make good choices on a range of issues. Trump is doing what good negotiators and good leaders do ,,, laying out platitudes that they don't believe in just to get all sides and the best arguments for each and then deciding based on the evidence as opposed to the politics. These morons hope to continue a long string of moronic decisions. The stupid establishment is biting back against the best interests of the country.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama's shadow government has been active since before he even left office. Look for at least 4 years of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the defeated party. They won't go quietly they never do.
     
  5. Wrathful_Buddha

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    In essence, this guy is recommending a shadow group that exists to thwart the will of the people and the president. The opposition party is really crusin for a bruisin.
     
  6. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe that the subject title would be Sedition...
     
  7. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Obama was fairly elected - twice. Didn't stop opposition leaders from opposing his programs (and it shouldn't). Trump opposition is
    a little different because it's coming from his own party.

    Trying to put opposition voices in jail is the Russian way - not the American way. How's the view from the Kremlin basement today?

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    Sorry, dude. In Russia, it would be called Sedition. In America, it's called Free Speech and Free Assembly.
     
  8. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you claim that organizing to incite violence, riots, looting and general mayhem is a form of Free Speech?
     
  9. Stevew

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    This sort of thing has been occurring for years now from the standpoint of government bureaucrats, non-appointees, making judgments based on political ideology no matter who the president happens to be. It is illegal but no one prosecutes it. Some have been caught and transferred to different positions.

    With regulations being created during the Obama admin without authority, at a break-neck pace, let's hope Trump can dial it back permanently.

    Here's an article written by a democrat working for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau blowing the whistle on his coworkers for their biased hiring practices, and worse, strong-arming businesses with fines calculated so they would prefer to pay the fine rather than fight it in court. The "tragedy" he discusses is they were too busy going after car dealers instead of putting more time in going after Wells Fargo Bank recently.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443227/consumer-financial-protection-bureau-tragic-failures

    This sort of thing should exclude many such people from ever working for ANY government.

    Steve
     
  10. Wrathful_Buddha

    Wrathful_Buddha Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall Bush striving for power equal to Obama when he left office. Obama's behavior seems very illegal to me.
     
  11. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    The Women's Day Marches and other protests involved millions of people - less than a hundred were arrested for violent acts.
    So yes, Free Speech was exercised. Only in the Soviet Union would such marches be classified as illegal or seditious.

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    Then you feel the First Amendment should be abolished. Obama is now a private citizen.
     
  12. Wrathful_Buddha

    Wrathful_Buddha Well-Known Member

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    Creating a shadow cabinet, while being funded by Soros to oppose the president makes him an insurrectionist.
     
  13. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Sorry - the "Shadow Cabinet" is fun for Grisham novels, but please, stop drinking the cool-aid.
     
  14. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That has already happened. The status quo establishment wasn't just going to go away. They have been entrenching for many decades.
     
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    General Mattis already called Trump down today saying that the press is NOT the enemy of the people.
     
  16. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The era of the largest, most diverse and widespread protests involving anti-college students, blacks for civil rights and women for women's rights - protests nationwide and that dwarfed current protests lead to what? They lead to the greatest Republican Presidential win - 49 of 50 states for Nixon.

    These protest HELP Trump. Protests won the election for Trump. Most people do not like malcontents, people shouting obscenities and threats, and the rest - Nixon's "silent majority." Most people actually have lives, jobs and families to attend to. Most protesters are there for the party atmosphere and a large percentage living off the government and other people's taxes. People do like money taken out of their paychecks to give it to someone who is blocking roads ranting obscenities rather than being at a job.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    President Trump NEVER said the "press is the enemy of the people." That is just the total ego mania of the 5 corporations' PR firms he said is the enemy of the people. Clearly, millions of Democrats believe no one should ever, ever, ever criticize billionaires or any corporation. They believe that ONLY corporations should have free speech and no one may ever express any disagreement.

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    Soros has become a demented old man probably locked in a room somewhere with check he signs written by an autopen.
     
  18. Daniel Light

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    I agree that many protests are counter-productive. But what our Soviet basement types are calling for is for people to be jailed who exercise that right to Free Assembly. That is unacceptable.
     
  19. Wrathful_Buddha

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    We didn't come up with the idea of a shadow cabinet. I guess Obama and David Roberts will have to explain what they mean.
     
  20. Bowerbird

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    Firstly - how on EARTH is the Orange Groper "uniting America"?

    I mean he has more lawsuits against him than any other president, he has the lowest approval ratings, his is reviled by many

    He is breaking promises to his base left right and centre (Hilary in jail yet?)

    His cabinet looks more like a Kleptocracy than a swamp drain

    And he has breached the emoulients clause, refused to publish his tax returns and generally behaved like a spoilt 2 year old
     
  21. Daniel Light

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    It was the OPINION of this writer that a shadow cabinet COULD be created. OPINION.

    OPINION.

    OPINION.

    OPINION.

    Do you understand this?

    This cabinet has not been created nor has Obama endorsed it. It was the OPINION of the writer that it COULD be.

    Understand?
     
  22. Wrathful_Buddha

    Wrathful_Buddha Well-Known Member

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    I do understand, and I believe his opinion is correct. Obama isn't exactly hiding his activities. Look at the leaks coming out of the intelligence community.
     
  23. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    George Soros: Top 10 Reasons He Is Dangerous
    http://humanevents.com/2011/04/02/top-10-reasons-george-soros-is-dangerous/
    Here are the Top 10 Reasons George Soros Is ... Organization for Women. ... leftist environmental ideas have been funded by Soros’ money at ...Soros started the Open Society Institute in 1993 as a way to spread his wealth to progressive causes.(*) Using Open Society as a conduit, Soros has given more than $7 billion to a who’s who of left-wing groups.(*) This partial list of recipients of Soros’ money says it all: ACORN, Apollo Alliance, National Council of La Raza, Tides Foundation, Huffington Post, Southern Poverty Law Center, Soujourners, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, and the National Organization for Women
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So you claim that this was a spontaneous march that was not funded? Whereas, Americans are quite aware of the millions of Soros funding went in to the marches.
     
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    Exactly. These protests are the last gasps of a dying ideology and party, for what looks to be a good bit of time given their lack of autopsy. The democratic party would rather implode than win; they will double down on their egregious attempts to balkanize with charges of deplorability and racism and lose 2020 and probably many senate seats in 2018.
     
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    How is Obama doing THAT??

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    Meh!!!

    No where near the power and influence of Murdoch or the Koch brothers
     

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