China and its Muslim problem.

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  1. slackercruster

    slackercruster Banned

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    They are also working diligently to keep Christians in check. You down with that?
     
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    Let's hear about America and its Trump problem, that's infinitely worse.
     
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    No. Muslim terrorism will to alert in Chinese places.
     
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    You don't hear much about China and its Buddhist problem. Although it is small, China is working diligently to keep it in check.
     
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    China don't tolerate any sort of religious dissent. They are already well aware of the fundamental, jihadist and radical Islamic ideological threat that is causing problems in the far western provinces. There is zero tolerance and they have execution for punishment when any sort of religious rising occurs. I agree with the tolerance threshold, however I think the punishment should be deportation or long-term imprisonment.
     
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    China like Israel is trying to jump of the bandwagon. China's 'muslim' problem is the same as China's Buddhist problem and Israel's Palestinian problem. It is about taking over other people's lands - something they never seem to agree to.

    Before 9/11 everyone was perfectly aware that the Tibetans, the Uighurs and the Palestinians were fighting oppression and the take over of their lands.
     
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    Two of history's worst, communists and Muslims in the same place.

    There are no good outcomes.
     
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    Yep, I'm having a hard time deciding whether I despise the Communists or the Islamists more. In America these two peas in the authoritarian pod are in bed with one another so I haven't been confronted with this dilemma before...:???:
     
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    China don't tolerate a lot of things. Just have a look a their moves against ethnic minorities, they are destroying their culture and their history. Through a massive settlement program of han chineses in these regions they are executing a form of ethnic cleansing.

    Not every Muslim with a gun in his hand is a radical islamist, although i assume that radical islamists use this situation for their purposes.
     
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    Don't forget to include Christians in the mix.
     
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    Why not. But the keeping christians in check isn't quite as relevant to the "west" as this article may be.
     
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    The Chinese regime prefer Confucian and Taoist philosophy. Any sort of fundamental Islamist uprising is combated with a strong measured response, usually execution. China has been struggling to contain the viral and infectious Islamist ideology spreading throughout its Western province of Xinjiang.
     
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    Christians are awesome! Christians haven't fought each other over religious issues since the War of the Roses eons ago.

    PS, Christians have not been the ones shooting up gay bars, running over people in trucks, strapping on suicide vest every other day....
     
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    I am more of a "Jeffersonian Deist but have to say I agree.

    Anyone who equates the violence of Christianity with the violence of Islam is going very far out of their way to reach.
     
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    PS, And neither have communists :)
     
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    Since you brought up Jefferson I will let him speak to your comment.

    Addams had something to say on the issue as well.

    Obviously, the Christianity of today has been tamed and a certain denomination within Islam has gone rogue so in this respect there is no comparison. The Christianity of "today" with the Saudi inspired extremist Salafi Islamists (Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Islamic Front, Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab and so on)

    The term "terrorist" is one that needs better defining and you will notice that the media never bothers to "define" what terrorism is (or even attempt).

    There is a difference between someone fighting for their land or their freedom (typical war or blood feud such as what is going on in Israel) and waging Jihad because you hate anyone who does not share your extremist religious beliefs and want to force those beliefs on everyone around you and kill anyone who does not submit.

    If one understands this distinction - the terrorism picture quickly becomes less muddy. It is the difference between "Islam" and and "Islamist"

    An Islamist is one who hates individual rights and freedoms and "Secularism" one who wants to force extreme Strict Sharia Theocracy on others through physical violence.

    This is why the term "radical Islamic terrorism" is not a good one as it lumps all Islam into the same category. A technically correct term would be "Islamist terrorism" or radical Islamist terrorism. The reason this term is not used is because this would help to educate the raging masses on the distinction given above, and the establishment does not want that

    The core issue here is that we have a group of people who

    1) hate individual right and freedoms/Liberty and
    2) want strict sharia/theocracy to be the law of the land/political system and
    3) are willing to use physical violence to force their religious beliefs on others.

    Now watch this video and tell me if this fellow does not meet the above criteria.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBDbGyv6SIQ

    Now hold on ! What is missing from the above criteria is an Islamist is willing to wage holy Jihad (a crusade) and/or martyr themselves in order to force others to submit to one's beliefs

    This is the one factor that separates "today's Christian" at this "current moment", from the Islamist.
     
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    The Commies are still doing their evil in North Korea: Reeducation Camps, executions of dissidents, starving their people and brainwashing them.

    The big Commie atrocity was with the Khmer Rouge in the late 1970's with genocide of all non-Ethnic Cambodians, those who spoke foreign languages, teachers, business owners....
     
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    Just yesterday a car bomb set up by the IRA(Catholic) exploded in a residential area in an attempt to kill a policeman outside his house. Any passers by would have been killed as well. Second attempt to kill policemen in two months - in the first attack a policeman was shot twice in the arm after a number of shots were fired at him. And yes, it is Catholic versus Protestant
     
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    The IRA are Marxist Neo-Communists.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistori...hat_extent_was_the_ira_influenced_by_marxism/
     
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    Sorry, but could you please find any ideology or beliefs taken from IRA sources that say they are Christian Catholics doing the work of Christ.

    Commies can't stand criticism of their own.
     
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    Still Christian on Christian terrorism. All IRA members are Catholic and their attacks are on Protestant areas. Using your argument, Muslims killing other Muslims is not terrorism
     
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    Putting all communist regimes under the same tent is like putting all Christians under the Westboro baptist tent.

    Brainwashing/sophisticated mind control techniques is a function of both Islam and Christianity.

    I can tell you how this is done if you like !
     

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