Matt Damon on Australia's gun confiscation...I wish that could happen in my country

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  1. slackercruster

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    Proof that Damon became famous because of his good looks.
     
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    Damon got it right
     
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    Good luck to Australia should it get attacked.

    When men give up freedom, it takes a fight to get it back.
     
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    It takes a special kind of person to believe that if the state confiscates firearms from the law abiding, their rights have not been infringed.
     
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    The US would be right there
     
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    We always forget that Australia was populated with criminals. The Australian constitution doesn't include an inherent right to bare arms. Wonder why...

    The real issue here is the active use of a ban to then create the impetus of the "buy back" which of course was mandatory. Clearly, the US constitution doesn't support such, nor would the application of eminent domain. When the Australian constitution was passed, it clearly purposefully didn't address the personal rights which the US constitution does. These are considered common law but are not codified by constitution. Because they are undocumented rights, the pejorative legislature was able to legislate "legal" ownership and "legal" weapon types.

    Simply recognizing that Australians don't enjoy an inherent right to self protection should tell us something about their cultural make up. It is not defensible to justify gun ownership from a sense of personal protective intent. Comparing their stance then to the US seems emotional and intellectually dishonest by those who do so. mr Damon makes a living showing us the non stop action of shooting folks at will, ignoring the law, breaking the law, an otherwise brandishing weapons in a way that sensationalizes them. He makes a living this way. Seems rather disingenuous of him to produce this type of film while lobbying to take away the natural rights of citizens in this country.
     
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    They did it after a horrible mass shooting. They have not had one since
     
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    I could care less what Matt D thinks anymore than I care what my pizza delivery guy thinks.
    I did like the Martian, good flick, I also like pizza.
     
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    You seem sure about this. Are you sure? And because you seem sure, would you support other draconian measure to ensure no potential future crime could be committed? You should think about your answer.
     
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    I am sure. Please dispute with verifiable facts
     
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    Simple:
    The Aussies didn't fight a revolution for independence and did not have external forces acting against it that necessitated an armed populace.

    Both the US and Australia came from the same pool of rights and common law; the US. because of its creation, took a different legal and philosophical path.

    Thank God (and King George) for that
     
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    Other than Monash University, Hectorville, Hunt Family Wagga Wagga or Logan shootings, all of which qualify as mass shootings or mass murders by US terms?
     
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    What industry benefits the most from glorifying gun violence? Would it surprise you to hear it's the movie industry? Let's see if Matt Damon ever swears off gun violence in his movies.
     
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    A direct comparison doesn't help from either perspective.

    True that much of Australia was initially a bunch of penal settlements. That's a bit like Georgia. One of the reasons Britain sent her convicts to Aus was because a bunch of colonies on the eastern seaboard of North America went independent.

    There's no equivalent of the Second Amendment in Aus because there was no need for it. The early colonies had the British military for defence and rudimentary peace-keeping. As the colonies developed away from their penal origins people who could afford firearms bought them and that was that. There was regulation of the private ownership of firearms but no Second Amendment hurdle. Regulation was introduced in the normal manner, via the legislatures. The colonies formed their own military organisations, usually militia form but also navies. For example colonies from Australia sent soldiers and sailors to the Boer War and the civil war in Russia. Because the militia were regulated from the start and there was no need for Minutemen and the like, there was no Second Amendment required to establish and maintain a militia. Hence there was no cultural attachment to the right to bear arms. The process of private individuals bearing arms was simply regulated. That continues today.
     
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    Matt Damon makes a living glorifying guns and violence. I bet his security detail is armed. Hypocrisy much?
     
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    Typical Hollywood hypocrite, makes a living portraying someone using guns in the movies, but believes the rest of the unwashed masses should not be allowed to own a firearm.
    If he truly believed the nonsense he spouts, then he should not take the roles that he does, same goes for Liam Neeson. Hypocrites, limousine liberals, do as I say, not as I do. How about shut up and entertain us.
     
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    Ever jackboot authoritarian would agree with you.
     
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    Why is his opinion given any more credibility than my opinion, your opinion, or anyone else's on this forum? I don't understand why folks value celebs positions. Are they better than us?
     
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    I agree with that. He just has a platform. We are now talking about it. But he is no more of an expert than you or i
     
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    Thats the propblem. Just because someone has a platform, somehow Americans give more credence to what these ding dongs are spewing.
     
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    In this case he happens to be right. Scott baio had a platform .....he just used it for trump
     
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    Way more celebs were stumping for that woman candidate than were advocating for President Trump.
     
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    Maybe they liked her. Do they have free speech?
     
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    All citizens have free speech. The issue is the weight that is given to what celebs have to say. People put the beliefs of celebs above their own beliefs.
     

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