Muslim Leader in Australia says its OK to use violence against women

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  1. Chris Knight

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    A senior Muslim leader in Australia endorses the use of violence against women as a last resort. He also advocates polygamy and Sharia for Muslims in Australia. How does this reconcile with the Muslim feminist movement?

    Article quote: "A SENIOR Muslim leader has said using violence against women is a "last resort" for men.
    President of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils Keysar Trad described beating women as "step three" in a process of dealing with issues in relationships, after counselling and buying chocolates or "taking her out on a dinner"." (https://www.qt.com.au/news/muslim-leader-says-beating-woman-last-resort/3146897/)

    Now there is a clear indication that the 7th century ideology runs contrary to the values of modern advanced nations.
     
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    You mean this type of violence...
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/india-musl...not-covering-head-while-eating-dinner-1522429
    I suppose murdering your four year old daughter for not wearing a headscarf at the dinner table, in front of
    the rest of the family is quite normal in the religion of peace.
    Oh, by the way..missus...go and bury the body in the backyard somewhere...
    Callous to say the least..but quite acceptable in the religion of peace as normal behaviour
    for a muslim..
    See the other examples of the religion of peace further down the link..
    You know..the usual murders..hnour killings..etc etc..
    Just more barbaric behaviour from a sickening stone age ideology...
     
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    But hey....Australia is a gun free zone!! :banana:
     
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    They are planning a second National Firearms Agreement.

    I am a licensed shooter, but might not be for much longer.
     
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    That is the exact time when the Australians can start jailing Muslim men,
    unlike the place where they came from there's a law there that protects women.
     
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    Would have been interesting to hear the answers to the following questions:

    What should become of a man who practices homosexuality?

    What should become of an unmarried woman who has sex?

    What should become of a married woman who commits adultery?

    Should it be illegal to insult the Prophet, Islam, or Allah?

    What should the punishment by for insulting them?
     
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    100% correct. Unfortunately the masses of the public listen to corrupt politicians and academics who have been paid by Islamic institutions and oil rich nations to spread lies which promote Islam as a religion of peace.
     
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    That's not what he said. But just as Yannopoulos was undone because there was deliberate misinterpretation of his comments, so it is going to be with Trad.
     
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    Didn't you watch the footage?
     
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    I wonder what will happen to most of the Middle Eastern countries as oil becomes less and less a factor. It will be interesting to see which, if any, diversify and begin to look at other revenue streams. Other extraction techniques, energy efficiency and natural alternatives will all begin to take more and more of a chunk out of what is sold by the ME
     
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    Did you read the reportage?
     
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    First rule of liberalism. They don't "support", they covet. Understanding this is key.
     
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    The beating is symbolic and is carried out with a miswak and a handkerchief.

    - - - Updated - - -

    4 year olds NEVER wear a headscarf.......
     
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    You are splitting hairs a little here. You are right in that the OP is not 100% accurate in its representation of what was said but what you don't say is that at no time was a beating absolutely ruled out. As a last resort, violence is still acceptable in your relationship with your wife as a Muslim man.
     
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    Depends on the country.. some have reinvested oil revenue in healthcare, education, clean water, hysolar, roads etc... and those same countries have diversified their revenue streams like at Yanbu and Jubail.
     
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    and yet clearly some expectation of a headscarf clearly existed. That beating was not symbolic.

    He killed his daughter.
     
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    A beating with a miswak.......
     
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    And that could well be right. However bad luck if a Muslim man tried to use that as a defence to a charge of assaulting a family member. What Trad was going on about was an interpretation of the Qu'ran and possibly the Hadith. And I have no good knowledge of either so I can't contribute on that point.
     
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    There are Muslims who are crazy or criminal. NO 4 year olds wear headscarves or are expected to wear headscarves.
     
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    From your link.

    The neighbours of Zafar called him a mentally unstable person who was rigid about his religious sentiments. According to them, he liked to keep women in 'pardah' (veil) and was eccentric when it came to screening women from men and strangers.

    Superintendent of Police (Rural), Brijesh Srivastava, said: "We have arrested the father for killing his daughter and we are questioning him about the incident. The body of the minor has been sent for post-mortem."

    Covering of the head or wearing a veil is mandatory for women in various Islamic sects worldwide. In 2007, 16-year-old Aqsa Parvez, a Canadian national, was strangled by her brother and father when she chose to not wear a hijab. In March 2014, Polish national Orina Morawiec was stabbed to death in her London apartment by her Muslim husband because she refused to wear a hijab.
     
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    You must understand that Muslims are going to take precedence over women's and gay's and (imaginary) sexual orientation issues in the minds of Leftist Liberals.

    Don't you know that not one single gay activist group has ever condemned Islam for the killings in Orlando? And none have demanded boycotts and change in hardcore Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia or Yemen.

    No righteous, PC liberal would ever dare speak out against Muslims.
     
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    BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)!!!

    That might be your interpretation...that might even be a widely held interpretation...but it is NOT the only interpretation.

    I have seen this with my OWN EYES and was absolutely forbidden to do a damn thing about it.

    What you can't seem to get through your head is that the more conservative brand of Islam is not the few isolated cases you think it is. It certainly may not be the majority, but it isn't relegated to a few statistical outliers either.
     
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    Hardcore Muslims act no different than the heathen savages did on the American Plains 150 years ago. They'd cut their women for disrespecting their men.

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    You're wrong.

    Further, there are gay communities in most large cities in Arabia.. and like the US in the 1950s they tend to be invisible in a country where public heterosexual displays are also unacceptable.
     
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    You don't watch old films? We used to smack em here when like a faux liberal, they were immune to rationality, logic, reason, and were being controlled by their emotions. It was not done to get even with them, it was done to slap a new synopsis in place, or to break the irrational one. We used to slap men for the same reason. When we stopped slapping away the irrational hysteria, we got this faux liberal tribe, which then breeds.

    Course, I could be wrong. But my serious reply is just that our own society used to see it as ok to smack an out of control, hysteric female, so it isn't 7th century behavior.
     

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