Trump strikes a blow for common sense and the rule of law

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Feb 23, 2017.

  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    25,426
    Likes Received:
    8,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump issued an order to cancel the multi restroom order of Obama. Obama was trying to withhold money from local schools, unless they constructed extra restrooms for kids that didnt "identify" as a boy or girl. This huge nonsense of an overbearing Fed government trying to control local schools was totally ignorant and not supported by the Constitution.

    The hundreds of millions it would have cost local school districts can far better spent on books computers and teachers.
     
  2. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2012
    Messages:
    15,838
    Likes Received:
    7,352
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Assuming of course that Trump and state and federal government Republicans don't gut education budgets. Educated people, for example, learn just how often throughout history specific groups of people are targeted and demonized by those in power as a distraction, something paralleled in our current administration through their muslim bans and the frothing-at-the-mouth done over the bathroom rules, the "gay agenda", the terrifying huge evil that is illegal immigration, etc etc etc you get the picture.
     
  3. ColdwarVet

    ColdwarVet Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2016
    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    57
    Trophy Points:
    28
    This is outstanding ! Obama really demonstrated what an absolute twit he is with the bathroom business. With all that's going on in our country, and abroad, the president of the U.S. takes time from his day to play pottie police. Jeesh!
     
  4. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    25,426
    Likes Received:
    8,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Spend that money on the 99.999% of school children.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And Obama was not????????????????????????
     
  5. Sampson Simpon

    Sampson Simpon Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    455
    Likes Received:
    206
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    The federal government is there to protect people and their rights, including transgendered people. NOt just white Christians. In fact, many times they have to protect people from white christians.

    I also find it ironic complaining about withholding federal funding for cons who think federal government is a waste and they are so self sufficient. Without federal funding, red states would be in trouble. And they rag on blue states, which pay far more into the federal government. Many red states take more money then they put in

    Oh, and its the ignorant right wingers that even need to have separate bathrooms because of the myth they are selling that transgendered women are raping women in bathrooms. All completely fiction. Oh, and many of the people against transgendered never met anybody. Because many are cowardly snowflakes that only surround themselves with people exactly like them and thinks everybody different is the boogie man coming to get them
     
  6. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    25,426
    Likes Received:
    8,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The simple solution is for for kids to go to the bathroom for the sex listed on their birth certificate.
     
  7. Sampson Simpon

    Sampson Simpon Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    455
    Likes Received:
    206
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male

    Yeah, for simple minded people, which I guess that's why right wingers are for it. It is also not that simple. There are several transgenders who have female on their BC but are big, muscular men in reality. The world isn't black and white like simple minded right wingers want to make it
     
  8. RedWolf

    RedWolf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2010
    Messages:
    7,363
    Likes Received:
    1,633
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not a christian, but letting someone use the opposite bathroom just because they say they feel like they're the wrong gender is dumb. Common sense says go where your plumbing is, not where you want it to be.
     
  9. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    76,435
    Likes Received:
    51,248
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Can't believe that clown was trying to regulate restrooms! I guess he had all the important things done, EXCEPT ISIS CONDUCTING ATTACKS IN US CITIES!

    AZ breaks out a truthbomb of of common sense too.

    Well, my, my, my AZ to punish protesters in the pocketbook. Its about time racketeering charges were brought against the rent-a-mob crowd.

    Arizona Senate votes to seize assets of those who plan, participate in protests that turn violent.

    Start with the vehicles that brought them to the riot.

    Claiming people are being paid to riot, Republican state senators voted Wednesday to give police new power to arrest everyone who is involved in a demonstration that includes the destruction of property of inflicts physical harm on others.

    SB1142 expands the state’s racketeering laws, now aimed at organized crime, to also include rioting. And it redefines what constitutes rioting to include actions that result in damage to the property of others.

    But the real heart of the legislation gives the government the right to criminally prosecute and seize the assets of everyone who planned a protest and everyone who participated.

    “A lot of them are ideologues, some of them are anarchists,’’ Kavanagh continued. “This stuff is all planned.’’
    There’s something else: By including rioting in racketeering laws, it actually permits police to arrest those who are planning events. And Kavanagh, a former police officer, said if there are organized groups, “I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there.’’

    “Wouldn’t you rather stop a riot before it starts?’’ Kavanagh asked colleagues during debate. “Do you really want to wait until people are injuring each other, throwing Molotov cocktails, picking up barricades and smashing them through businesses in downtown Phoenix?’’

    “I have been heartsick with what’s been going on in our country, what young people are being encouraged to do,’’ she said. There already are laws that cover overt acts. But they don’t work. “If they get thrown in jail, somebody pays to get them out,’’ she said. “There has to be something to deter them from that.’’

    The 17-13 party-line vote sends the bill to the House.

    http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/02/22/arizona-senate-crackdown-on-protests/
     
  10. Russ103

    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2014
    Messages:
    7,595
    Likes Received:
    3,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Can you define a transgender person?
     
  11. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2012
    Messages:
    11,892
    Likes Received:
    2,768
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Obama spent to much time in bathrooms a d not enough time in Syria
     
  12. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    25,426
    Likes Received:
    8,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The clown trying to control bathrooms was Obama.
     
  13. ColdwarVet

    ColdwarVet Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2016
    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    57
    Trophy Points:
    28
    I think you misunderstood me. What I was trying to say is that I applaud Trump for revoking such a stupid EO. And that it's a shame that he is put in the position of having to revoke this stupidity on Obama's part.
     
  14. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,205
    Likes Received:
    37,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    well in Obarry's defense I don't really think he was the driving force behind the ruling, personally I think Mooshell pushed him the hardest to have it that way ;)
     
  15. ColdwarVet

    ColdwarVet Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2016
    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    57
    Trophy Points:
    28
    You are correct. That is what I very poorly said. Sorry for the confusion.
     
  16. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,841
    Likes Received:
    18,955
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    First of all the bathroom deal was not an "order" it was a education department guideline of which I found to be stupid, unnecessary, and about as useful as Trump's ban of the seven Muslim sister countries. Yet to claim that Trump the wannabe autocrat and budding ductator is somehow a proponent or follower of the rules of law is at best laughable and at worse a pike of crap a mile high.
     
  17. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    27,293
    Likes Received:
    4,346
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Actually, you are wrong. The guideline did not mandate extra restrooms. It mandated that TG kids be able to use the restroom of their choice, unless all the restrooms were private.
     
  18. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    27,293
    Likes Received:
    4,346
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Actually, in terms of restrooms, you have it wrong. It wasn't conservatives who started this issue. They were reacting to liberal laws.

    In terms of the NC law, it was a reaction to a Charlotte city law.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ich-could-be-repealed/?utm_term=.e41d46fd9ecd
     
  19. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure. Thanks to hormone "therapy", plastic surgery, and a bunch of people who want to pretend thinking something you're not isn't a mental illness.
     
  20. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Transgender isn't a "condition" or any gender. It's just some term liberals use to describe people who have mental health issues.

    The bottom line is, it is black and white. If you have a wiener, you're going to the dude's room. If not, you should go to the women's room. We understand that the left is fighting so that old men get to pee with little girls, but it's a stupid fight to be in.
     
  21. AKS

    AKS Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    10,471
    Likes Received:
    4,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually gender is one of the things that is black or white. There are big muscular women and scrawny petite men, of course this has nothing to do with gender. If you have a ******* or a single x chromosome then you are male. "Feelings" on the matter are inconsequential.
     
  22. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2015
    Messages:
    28,121
    Likes Received:
    19,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why should the majority ALWAYS bow to the minority, even if that minority is 0.00001% of the population? Let's just do what makes sense for our society and if a small percentage of us is inconvenienced, they just need to get over it.

    There is a town in Massachusetts that had a "high five" program one Friday per month where police officers would give a high five to elementary school students entering school. It was a community outreach program by the police. It was dropped because there was a fear that minority students would be traumatized by the presence of police on campus.

    We have lost our minds.
     
  23. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2015
    Messages:
    14,895
    Likes Received:
    5,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, no they don't
     
  24. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2013
    Messages:
    10,094
    Likes Received:
    2,252
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Requiring local schools to accommodate transgender students is not that big of an issue. You're wasting energy on something that doesn't require so much energy.
     
  25. Sampson Simpon

    Sampson Simpon Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    455
    Likes Received:
    206
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    I hear this talk of "common sense" and some people can say it all they want, they don't seem to have any. There would be no need for protecting transgendered if it wasn't for republicans trying to ban them from certain restrooms. It still amazes me there are people don't see the games republicans play to distract their constituency. Republicans lost on gay marriage. They threw red meat to their base to ban gay marriage, and it unconstitutional. So they targeted transgenders when there was absolutely no need to.

    The entire transgender issue, like many others before, only come about when republicans tried to oppress a minority, try to humiliate them, try to force their morals on others. ANd then they lie, claiming these nonsense arguments about how dangerous it is for little girls in bathrooms. It's not. Transgendered already know they are going to fact ridicule, they want to go to the bathroom and do their business in peace. Heterosexual men are the ones that are a rape risk to women. What do you think would happen if a transgendered female was forced to go into a mens restroom dressed as a woman? Particularly with all the hateful, violent bigots around?

    So the federal government steps in to protect people. You guys are all big on states rights, but the federal government is there to protect people's rights. So you can't have states oppress people, discriminated against them, and expect the federal government to do nothing.

    Republicans started this, made an issue where there was none. Like with most of their bigoted positions.
     

Share This Page