2011 College Football Thread

[kronikcope]

In fairness to Kronik, as I recall he was a wrestler in h.s. And in my experience wrestlers are pound for pound the best athletes in all of high school athletics. It's the only sport that trying to make weight is where you see the discipline they have. I was into baseball and like
Al Bundy peaked in high school; but props to wrestlers for pure athleticism. That takes nothing away from other sports it's just in my humble opinion wrestlers are the most disciplined pound for pound.

Bless your sweet, humble heart Herk...and you're correct, at least in my experiences, that wrestling was the toughest sport I ever competed in. I thought a few years about playing baseball after wrestling season, but I figured I would have sucked - never played it growing up.

I'm wondering how far Alabama is going to drop in the polls.

[Herkdriver]

Bless your sweet, humble heart Herk...and you're correct, at least in my experiences, that wrestling was the toughest sport I ever competed in. I thought a few years about playing baseball after wrestling season, but I figured I would have sucked - never played it growing up.

I'm wondering how far Alabama is going to drop in the polls.

Baseball is primarily a skill sport, you can eat a plate of lasagna before a game and not have it be detrimental to your game. Wrestlers eat breathe and sleep their sport.

Bama should drop to 4 or 5, still a great team. I saw Air Force rallied against Army, Go Blue!

[SpotsCat]

Bless your sweet, humble heart Herk...and you're correct, at least in my experiences, that wrestling was the toughest sport I ever competed in. I thought a few years about playing baseball after wrestling season, but I figured I would have sucked - never played it growing up.

I'm wondering how far Alabama is going to drop in the polls.

Alabama is #3.

'Bama plays Mississippi State this Saturday at Starkville. 'Bama is a 17 point favorite.

I think I'd take those odds!

[arjay]

Disagreed, Alabama are even immediately after this loss ranked #4. Stanford is beatable, and I am confident OSU WILL lose one of it's remaining games. So there are 2 scenarios I see happening. Both Stanford and OSU lose, and you will get a rematch. Or just OSU will lose, and it will be Stanford and LSU in the title(assuming LSU wins out, which is hardly a given). The only other undefeated team, Boise State(excluding Houston), has no legitimate chance of playing in the title game. Even though I personally think they are better than every team in the country, with the exceptions of LSU and Alabama.

Do you disagree with my assessment that Alabama is history? Well, you are right. It's just my opinion that they should be done for, but with the historical bias for SEC teams, they still might get another chance to bore us with an LSU matchup - but gosh, I hope not. I agree with you that Stanford is beatable, maybe even this week against Oregon & I expect OSU to lose against Oklahoma. So that will/may leave Boise St.. I think their fate is tied to how well Georgia performs. If UGA makes the SEC title game, with only the 2 losses, and plays a real close game vs. LSU, it increases their chance of getting in their. I still believe Alabama can lose another game this season, which would eliminate them for sure. We/I can only hope.

[frodly]

Murdered how? I was 165 lbs starting CB for a team that made it to the state semis my junior year and was all league my junior and senior year, while going to state 4 years in wrestling and placing twice. How a tubby rolly polly with no muscle tone is going to tell me he was offered a spot on a team who duties didn't include wearing a skirt and cheering from the sidelines is beyond me.

Yep, I was rolly polly!! I was 5'10 205 pounds, benching 350 pounds, and running a 4.9 40 as a senior in high school. I was recruited to play D-2, but if I was motivated I could have walked on at division 1 schools. I just wasn't.

[frodly]

In fairness to Kronik, as I recall he was a wrestler in h.s. And in my experience wrestlers are pound for pound the best athletes in all of high school athletics. It's the only sport that trying to make weight is where you see the discipline they have. I was into baseball and like
Al Bundy peaked in high school; but props to wrestlers for pure athleticism. That takes nothing away from other sports it's just in my humble opinion wrestlers are the most disciplined pound for pound.

They are the fittest high school athletes, with the possible exception of long distance runners. However, they do NOT tend to be great athletes!! In fact, the people I know who were good wrestlers were actually uncoordinated and otherwise poor athletes!!

[kronikcope]

They are the fittest high school athletes, with the possible exception of long distance runners. However, they do NOT tend to be great athletes!! In fact, the people I know who were good wrestlers were actually uncoordinated and otherwise poor athletes!!

What a joke.

Wrestlers, at the top levels of the sport, are the best athletes in the HS/college levels. The strength, speed, cardio, aggression, mental and physical toughness you have to possess is on a different level than any other sport, period. There's a reason top level wrestler can come right out of college after winning a National Title and enter right in to the top tier of mixed martial arts, which most consider the most physically demanding sport on the planet.

[Herkdriver]

They are the fittest high school athletes, with the possible exception of long distance runners. However, they do NOT tend to be great athletes!! In fact, the people I know who were good wrestlers were actually uncoordinated and otherwise poor athletes!!

We had these debate before a while back and I believe it was statistically shown
that wrestlers sustain the most injuries of any high school sport.

Now in terms of SKILL, I would argue that hitting a major league fastball that is thrown
at 90 plus miles per hour from a distance of 60 feet 6 inches, is the toughest thing to do in all of sports...however that's skill not athleticism necessarily. Babe Ruth used to eat hot dogs
and smoke a cigar before a game but he could hit a fastball...

In terms of ATHLETICISM, wrestling is among the top if not the top sports to compete in.

Wrestlers train by running, lifting weights and eating a very stringent diet to maintain their weight class...in addition to needing
the skills necessary for a successful pin or avoiding a pin.

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I watch Championship caliber teams play in the NFL all the time, that are infinitely better than LSU or Alabama, and none of their games play out that way!! For example Green Bay vs Pittsburgh finished 31-25 last year. Great teams, who executed well, and provided for entertaining football. That game yesterday was poor. It was great defenses executing well, while average offenses and Alabama's special teams executed embarrassingly. If you want to watch 9-6 games, be my guest, but I don't care to.

well there you go

comparing top rate NFL teams to top rate college teams

that's all you can do because there is no college team with which to compare LSU and Bama except each other

[politicalcenter]

Girls like to see a lot of touchdowns and many points scored.

Men like to see real battles.