Thread: 2012 London Olympics

Originally Posted by Irishman

Rescue of Ireland? How insulting can you be? English historians have estimated that the Irish killed and/or sold into slavery were into the hundreds of thousands, and you call that "saving." Cromwell was nothing more than a murderer.

I can be more if you like, the irish "sold" weren't celts, how do you like that?

The irish were slipping into old pagan ways, something had to be done.

Originally Posted by J0NAH

I can be more if you like, the irish "sold" weren't celts, how do you like that? The irish were slipping into old pagan ways, something had to be done.

Sure, so murder them and sell the rest into slavery. That's quite a "something." Ask Cromwell how he is doing when you see him in hell with the rest of the scum.

Anyways, I am done with you. My apologies to the OP for going off track.

Originally Posted by Irishman

Sure, so murder them and sell the rest into slavery. That's quite a "something."

Not quite, more like purifying the bloodline. It had become somewhat infected.

I think the thread is solid evidence that the Olympics...despite it's original intent to unite...
is ultimately divisive.

Very profound statement!

not.

The olympics is not about uniting ppl. It's about showing the world the power of sport [to the individual].

Get off your arse and just do it!

Originally Posted by kronikcope

Google it, there are a million articles about Chinas state sponsored doping program through the 80s and 90s.

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/arti...nsored-doping/

yes maybe, but not enough evidence to pass judgement on it. if a coach or the doctor decide to use the drug without athelete knowledge, is that consider state sponsor. in fact i read alot ariticle shows how the government punish these people and establish newly branch to monitor its own doctor/coachs/athelete, they kick out several of their own athelete out of olympic for suspicion on doping before the game start. furthermore, most the trainning the chinese girl done for the pass few year were in australia, she regular been test by aussie for drugs. her coach is ken wood, one of the best swiming coach in the world.

if we look at track & field records we have quite a bit doping record too. as right now there is no evidence to prove shes guilty, so lets leave at that. beside we all grow up with "proven until guilty" maybe we ought to follow that rule instead using it as lip service.

the thing people fail to reliaze as china economy/power raise, they have the money to hire the best coach in the world, buy the best equipment in the world, and a pool of 1.3billion to choose from for talents. china spend hundreds million to train their athelete in china and aboard. they send all their top athelete to US/europe/australia for trainning, sometime years.

Originally Posted by s002wjh

yes maybe, but not enough evidence to pass judgement on it. if a coach or the doctor decide to use the drug without athelete knowledge, is that consider state sponsor. in fact i read alot ariticle shows how the government punish these people and establish newly branch to monitor its own doctor/coachs/athelete, they kick out several of their own athelete out of olympic for suspicion on doping before the game start. furthermore, most the trainning the chinese girl done for the pass few year were in australia, she regular been test by aussie for drugs. her coach is ken wood, one of the best swiming coach in the world.

if we look at track & field records we have quite a bit doping record too. as right now there is no evidence to prove shes guilty, so lets leave at that. beside we all grow up with "proven until guilty" maybe we ought to follow that rule instead using it as lip service.

the thing people fail to reliaze as china economy/power raise, they have the money to hire the best coach in the world, buy the best equipment in the world, and a pool of 1.3billion to choose from for talents. china spend hundreds million to train their athelete in china and aboard. they send all their top athelete to US/europe/australia for trainning, sometime years.

She went to Australia for block training, and would return to China for period of time.
It's possible she's a phenomenal swimmer and nothing else, however the experts on the matter red flagged her performance as beyond an unenhanced level.
Couple that with China's track record on doping, not to say other nation's don't do it..but China places tremendous pressure on athletes to win Gold.
Well it doesn't look good.

Originally Posted by Herkdriver

She went to Australia for block training, and would return to China for period of time.
It's possible she's a phenomenal swimmer and nothing else, however the experts on the matter red flagged her performance as beyond an unenhanced level.
Couple that with China's track record on doping, not to say other nation's don't do it..but China places tremendous pressure on athletes to win Gold.
Well it doesn't look good.

it doesn't look good because shes not an american. she went to australia to train, go back to china for a week or so to see her parent, then went back to australia to train and tested by australia drug tester. there is only one expert accuse of her, all the rest including Phelp coach says its a reasonable time. and it seem to me you only read the negative side but never listen the opinion of other expert/anti-dope agency/british drug tester and many more defending her. also this thing already been drop by media, as multiple source says shes clean right now. i mean phelp break several world record, there are expert probably thing hes doping too. all you have right now is accusation nothing more. even the expert who accuse her had gone quite now.

if phelp was not on american team, think how many these expert will accuse him of doping. his record were nothing short of extraordinary, compare to him the chinese girl record is almost nothing.

The United States just won two big gold medals back to back, with Kayla Harrison winning gold at 78kg in Judo and Gabrielle Douglas winning the women's individual all around in gymnastics.