The FBI has thwarted another Terrorist Group planning to attack Commuter Routes from New Jersey to New York...

News still Breaking.

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(*)(*)(*)(*) good work, I just hope that they didn't pull the trigger too soon. Maybe they SHOULD have let them get further along in their planning before the bust.

I dunno. Just an ignorant thought.

They arrested one guy -- in Beirut. Based on some vague e-mail messages. The "plot" never got any further than that.

Plus, it wouldn't have worked. The plan was to bomb the Holland Tunnel so the Hudson River would pour in and flood the financial district. Even if they had managed to crack the tunnel, it's below ground level. the city would have remained unflooded.

Now, bombing the tunnel might in and of itself be a terrorist act worth noting. It would certainly suck to be a driver trapped down there as the river poured in. And it would block one of the main traffic arteries into Manhattan.

But this plot, if it was a serious plot, never got past the "wouldn't it be cool?" phase.

If this and the Miami dimbulbs are the guys we're defending ourselves against, why are we worried? They're morons.

Here's an interesting take on it too, in which the writer notes that if these plots are to be taken seriously, it explodes the whole "fight them over there" argument.
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/po...ves/002722.php

I happen to think that the "fight them over there" logic is nonsense, but I also don't think these plots should be taken seriously. I worry about actual terrorists, not disaffected buffoons.

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Man up.

Perhaps you think we should wait and see if they ARE able to "pull it off"?!?!?

You can't be serious, can you?

I'll bet if we had caught the guys planning 9/11 you would have dismissed that too as a "bunch of buffoons".

How could they think that learning to fly a regular plane would give them enough knowledge to fly a Jet Airliner, right?!?!?

Yeah, I prefer to take people seriously when they say they want to kill you...

But that's just me.

Regards,
Gaar

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Nope. Arrest them. Break up the plot. But don't oversell it.

Threats should be taken seriously. But at least try to compare ambitions and means.

If I came up with a plot to destroy America by diverting an asteroid into Kansas, would you take me seriously? No. Because my abilities don't match my ambitions.at a

The Secret Service does this all the time. Mention in a public place that you'd like to kill Bush, and you may well get a visit because the SS can never be too careful. But most of the time they'll conclude that you aren't a serious threat.

Same thing here.

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Man up.

[quote="raytri";p="255728"]I put a little more credibility behind an attempt to blow up a tunnel in New York than I do an attempt to divert an asteroid...

I believe the term "proximity" comes to mind.

But that's just me.

You obviously have different criteria that you use to assess a "Threat" than I do.

Regards,
Gaar

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Why must you poo-poo everything this administration does as soon as you hear about it? Thank GOD the plot never got any further than that!!!

On 9/10/2001, many people would have said that 9/11 could never have worked either!!

Oh yeah? "the plotters allegedly got a pledge of financial and tactical support from Jordanian associates of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq before he was killed last month in a U.S. air strike. The paper said it was not clear if any cash or assistance was delivered.? That's a bit further than "wouldn't it be cool?" Besides, as Chertoff says....there's a short distance between talking about it and doing it.


So was Timothy McVeigh. But he killed 169 people. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put a bomb together. The shoe bomber almost pulled his off and that would have taken down a plane and killed many people.

So, you think only ordinary, law-abiding smart people are going to be the terrorists??? Your logic escapes me.

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Mommy, mommy, there's a terrorist under my bed!

Well I suspect they have to make a big deal about all the terrorist plots they are stopping right before the one they let happen for the election fear politics they need. I'm sure the peons understand you can't stop all of them. They are only human. Then again the fear would dictate that the peons elect republicans because after all the Democrats won't protect them from this menace.

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I find it fascinating how many people are ready to dismiss it, out of hand, before we have learned all of the details...

Just shows that some are only interested in spinning ANY News against this Administration, no matter what it may mean.

The bias is fairly evident.

Regards,
Gaar

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pretense of loving liberty -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism
can be taken pure, and without the base alloy hypocrisy."

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