Israel's military released video Wednesday that it said proved the Baalbeck hospital was a Hezbollah headquarters. Hezbollah disputed the account.

Israeli special forces captured five militants and killed 10 others, Israel's army said."

It's gone now.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...tion=cnn_world

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Clintonite after Clintonite. My question is, "So when does this so-called CHANGE start?"

the radical arabic society has the west in the bag. They target civilians. Torture and behead pow's and the innocent. Hide in hospitals, mosks, use the geneva convention to fight the only effective war that they can. Yet they are the oppressed. Now if a US or an Israeli bomb strays off target, or shrapnel from anything american made hits a civilian, WE ARE THE MONSTERS. The lines are being drawn. The fronts are carved. Pick a side and fight or die in the cross fire. Its not about religion. Or race, or land, or WMD's. The threat of homicidal oppression is on the rise once again. Join the side of freedom or the mindless killers its your choice.

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AKA an American Infantryman.
Yet somehow I think for myself.....

Fair enough - that is one side of the story.

The other side is that the hospital was empty when the Israelis stormed it, they were then surrounded by Hizbollah who cornered them inside the hospital and were freed when continued shelling dispersed the Hizbo9llah fighters.

And the six people who were abducted by the IDF were not from anywhere near the hospital, they were from Assara(?), about six miles away.

Six were abducted, presumably because they were all of the 'Nasrallah' family, but no relation to the Hizbollah leader. One owned a toy shop. It is claimed that none are Hizbollah fighters, and the sixth person was only let go when the Israelis found out he was a 14 year old schoolboy (but 'Nasrallah' all the same!). The schoolboy was wounded as the Israelis left.

Looks like they had some intelligence and were looking for a certain 'Nasrallah' individual. Just because the intelligence turns out to be wrong might as well grab a few more hostages while we are here, eh!

For the BBC Newsnight report on this see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/?id=newsnight

This also contains a fine report on the sequence of ever-changing lies being put forward by the Israeli government to try to weasel out of culpability for Qana. (Remarkably familar to anyone who knows of the Qana Massacre 1 litany of lies).

First they admitted it but said that they had 'proof' (you have to see this, JP5!) that Hizbollah had been firing rockets from that location at the time - they even showed video footage purported to represent this very 'fact'. Now, this initial lie having been exposed, they are trying to suggest that there is a 'timeline discrepancy' of about 8 hours between their shelling of the building and its collapse. Hard to know what they are trying to suggest here, really; that the Lebanese stuffed the building full of their children and pulled it down on top of them just to embarrass Israel? Crazy - desperate-PR-crazy.

Thankfully it has been found that only 28 of those previously thought caught in the rubble were actually trapped. 16 children in that number - but it is a blessing that it was not so bad as originally suspected.

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Oh.....how very sweet of you to give such nice little defenses while defending Hezbollah.

Yep.....the new 28 figure verified by a Human Rights Group says to me that Hezbollah's staged press-event was a pack of lies.

It's really hard to believe that there are people like you who SUPPORT and DEFEND Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a terrorist group that has killed, murdered, kicnapped, tortured, and mained. They have killed U.S. citizens as well as U.S. military.

But I see you've chosen your side. Truly sad.

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Clintonite after Clintonite. My question is, "So when does this so-called CHANGE start?"

It's the job of a rational person to consider both sides of the story. To consider the other side shows intelligence, not that he supports this other side.

When Hezbolla lies all the time, you want to consider their story on an equal basis. Alrighty then Mister Logic. (Moral equivalency)

Since I am completely new to this political debate, I am confused.
Just what or who is Hezballoh? It isn't on the globe, so obviously it isn't a nation.
Who is in charge? The one who seems to be in charge is an Islamic cleric who is in hiding. I thought religion strove to convert people to their ideas, not kill them.

Where are their headquarters? There is definitely not something you can bomb, so of course innocents get killed. There are no fortresses or barricks, tanks, or even soldiers in battle formation. By its very characteristics it is a terrorist group.

As far as Israel is concerned, it is a nation, with a government and a land.
It has elected officials who can be engaged in negotiations. They were attacked (many, many times is history) and they have the right to defend themselves. They have land that was first given to them by Jehovah God Almighty and have relinquished parts of it in vain efforts to keep peace in the region. Any group of terrorists, or organized nations are doomed untimately to failure, because Israel is protected by God. Not America.
We have not engaged with them in any warfare.

Even if you choose to leave God Almighty out of the discussion, IMO siding with cowardly terrorists who hide behind women and children is an assinine viewpoint.

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You can look it up yourself, Google on "Hezbollah wikipedia" and you'll find all the background you need.

As far as "land being granted by God", that's completely irrelevant. The relevant pieces are the British mandate, and then the UN mandate.

And the most relevant part of all, is that both sides are committing atrocious war crimes in the name of "self-defense".

[quote] War is terrible. Of course people are dying. That's what war is all about. My point is that a religious order seems to be trying to eliminate a nation. Yes, Israel was given land by the UN and Britain played a role. But history proves that it was Israel's land originally. aww:

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