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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Schopenhauer

Why do you hate America?

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O'TEDDY BIN-SWIMIN

It sums up quite nicely (and a bit humorously) the problems that we as Americans have to deal with if we are really going to succeed in overcoming terrorism.

Too bad, however, that the message will be lost on most who see the US as incapable of mistake. look back up at the above reply if you don't believe me.

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LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!!!

This guy makes it sound like this isn't how the US usually deals with tragedy. How long where the major News agencies following the disappearance of Natalee halHolloway in Aruba ?! "This is day 247 of Natalie watch". Heck, the US still has Southerners lamenting Dixie days gone by and reenacting the civil war battles in full regalia. It's what the US does. Gets sappy and unites. Not such a bad thing. The issue is that unlike WW2, this is not a country or army the US is fighting which leads to controversy. Personally I didn't do most of the things you listed and I was living there for years at the time. In fact, have a picture in front of the towers dated 08-13-01 (please don't start another conspiracy theory). So not all americans went crazy. Not me, not you, and I'm guessing not Joker either.

The country and the government are not the same thing. I love the principles America was founded on, but the government has done nothing but destroy most of those principles.

Now go bow to your master Bush and lick his boots clean.

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Schopenhauer

Why do they hate us and how do we end the war?

http://www.chaostan.com/whydotheyhateus.html

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The Saudis asked for our help , We helped , Osama was pissed they didn't use him , we set foot on his so-called "sacred soil", he declared a Jihad against America .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_qaeda
We vowed to punished those who murdered 3,000 Americans , thought a long-term war in the Middle-East would be a move toward democracy , got stuck with a poor leader who made many mistakes

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The Solution for Illegal Immigrants (Gray areas discussed throughout the thread)

If the Saudis can't help themselves...tough. We have no business in the region. Why would you even want to help the Saudis? They're petty dictators. They rule the country through the 6,000+ children they've had with their hundreds of wives. They arrest and imprison anyone who brings a Bible into their country. They torture and execute anyone who converts to Christianity. Yeah, some real swell allies...

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Schopenhauer

Truth-Bringer is absolutely right. Americans must start answering themselves "why? Why do they hate us so?". And they must not stop asking that question until they know the truth.

Is it because America has oppressed the Muslim world in some way? Palestinian and Lebenese Shia are brought up in a culture where killing innocent people is cool. Kids are taught that the quickest way to Allah is through death killing infadels.

All over the Middle East, crowds are lectured again and again about how America is the great satan and that the infidel country will fall and be replaced by an Islamic Calophate. They say that the new dawn of Islam is coming where they will chase the infidel behind the rocks and behind the trees and the rocks and the trees will say "oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is an infidel behind me, kill him" (Hamas' Charter, article 5 (approx)). Allah ackbar allah ackar. God is great. Muslims will be victorious over the infidel. Israel will fall, America will fall, the entire Western world will fall.

America, Britain (so they say) are not owned by the British or the Americans. They are owned by Allah in Allah's world. As such they are the property of Muslims and the sacralige of those infidels breaking Muslim law on Allah's lands will not go unpunished. When, they are told, Muslims say "Death to America" they are speaking of love for Islam, love for Islam's values. "Death to America" , they are told, is the most holy thing you can say according to the Koran meaning that you condemn the prostitution, the sacrillige, the drugs, the alcahol, the insults against Islam from Darwin and secularist immoral world. That is why, they are told, "Death to America" is a beautiful phrase that goes straight to God. So go forth from this mosque and shout "Death to America, Death to Israel" and let Allah hear your beautiful words.

Why America? They are told, America is the leader of the disgusting decadence of Christianity and when America falls, so too will the whole Western world. They are weak and their society is already crumbling. Our numbers in those nations are growing and Allah will grant us victory over the infidel Kuffa [scum].



Now, in my view, the disgusting hate frequently encouraged by the Muslim states, MIGHT, have at least a little to do with it.

So now that we understand it, the solution is to refuse to buckle to their repulsive agenda and not rest a day until every Islamic fanatic is scourged from this Earth. We need stronger action and we need to be prepared to make things worse before they get better. We must eliminate all official yet extreme Muslim buildings and organisations. In other words, we must drive them underground everywhere. We must also demonstrate strength as to these people, nothing can be more provokative than weakness. We can be kind; they will see it as weak. We can respect their human rights; but they do not properly understand what human rights really are.

We are dealing with a society like that of the Roman days. Can you imagine how quickly Rome would have fallen if Amnesty International had become empire?

But a common Israeli viewpoint is that, as a liberal democracy, we must fight with one hand behind our back. I agree completely, but in that case, we must make full use of our one arm and crush the Islamofascist scum with every legitimate (ie not illegal) means at our disposal.

Great point Truth-Bringer, by looking at the cause you have shown that we must be far more brutal than we have been so far.

Probably because the American government are a bunch of terrorists whose only interest is raping their land and killing their people. Americans seem to think that this all started with 9/11. Look further back in time and you'll soon see some of the atrocities that the American government has supported and carried out on their people.