Homicide Bomber: Kills 121 people in Baghdad - Page 3

sputterman · #21 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 08:27 AM

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Why do you say that people are not outraged?

Why do you insist on saying putting panties on peoples heads is all that happened at Abu Ghraib? I guess if I tie your hands behind your back, lift your hands and then beat you to death, that you would think that is the same as putting panties on your head.

Wasn't done.

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So how is putting 21,000 troops more in Iraq going to stop these bombers?

It's not. Nobody's ever been able to stop the homicide bombers in Israel or other places either. But to just leave and give up the fight will only embolden them and make it worse.

of 'detainees' have been murdered in other US prisons over there. Where is your outrage?

apotropoxy · #22 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 08:53 AM

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JP5";p="338313"]Again----I must ask: WHERE IS THE WORLD'S OUTRAGE????

Where has your outrage been, JP?
Bush the Lame has loosed the dogs of war and the gnarled carcasses are littered throughout Iraq.
The first responsibility of a conquering occupier is to establish civil control. This was never done.
All consequences flowing from this initial failure rests with the War Criminal-in-Chief.
Your silence has been deafening.

sputterman · #23 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 09:45 AM

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I person's arms were tied to some bars for 5 hours, and this killed him? I don't think so, Tim. You can't die in five hours from having your arms tied to some bars.

Crucifixion was, by design, a very slow and painful death, often lasting days before a person died. Prior to his crucifixion, Jesus was beaten and whipped mercilessly with a whip that had little lead balls tied to the end of each strand on the whip. After being beaten half to death, his body was nailed to a cross in such a position that often causes a person to drown from within and suffocate, due to the full weight of one's body being hung in such a manner. Scripture records Jesus died very quickly, in less than a day. The spear thrust in his side was necessary to prove he had really died, because his death was so quick. Yet even Jesus' crucifixion took the entire day.

So, the person in question could not have died in only five hours from having his arms tied to some bars. He died from something else. Whether or not this “something else” was a homicide or not, I do not know.

Could you please give me the chapter and verse you got this information about the whipping from. I've read the relevant passages in the bible pretty thoroughly and haven't read that. And that thing about the nails too. I've never seen anything about nails either. Did you get your information from that Mel Gibson movie?

SenaxFlatulus · #24 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 10:36 AM

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I person's arms were tied to some bars for 5 hours, and this killed him? I don't think so, Tim. You can't die in five hours from having your arms tied to some bars.

Crucifixion was, by design, a very slow and painful death, often lasting days before a person died. Prior to his crucifixion, Jesus was beaten and whipped mercilessly with a whip that had little lead balls tied to the end of each strand on the whip. After being beaten half to death, his body was nailed to a cross in such a position that often causes a person to drown from within and suffocate, due to the full weight of one's body being hung in such a manner. Scripture records Jesus died very quickly, in less than a day. The spear thrust in his side was necessary to prove he had really died, because his death was so quick. Yet even Jesus' crucifixion took the entire day.

So, the person in question could not have died in only five hours from having his arms tied to some bars. He died from something else. Whether or not this “something else” was a homicide or not, I do not know.

Could you please give me the chapter and verse you got this information about the whipping from. I've read the relevant passages in the bible pretty thoroughly and haven't read that. And that thing about the nails too. I've never seen anything about nails either. Did you get your information from that Mel Gibson movie?

This thread/discussion is on Iraq and 121 dying in a car bomb explosion. If you have a problem with Barney's portrayal of the crucifiction, take it up with him in PM or another thread. There's an entire forum dedicated to religion... go there and knock yourself out.

If you have something pertinent to THIS subject, please feel free to contribute.

sputterman · #25 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 12:07 PM

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I person's arms were tied to some bars for 5 hours, and this killed him? I don't think so, Tim. You can't die in five hours from having your arms tied to some bars.

Crucifixion was, by design, a very slow and painful death, often lasting days before a person died. Prior to his crucifixion, Jesus was beaten and whipped mercilessly with a whip that had little lead balls tied to the end of each strand on the whip. After being beaten half to death, his body was nailed to a cross in such a position that often causes a person to drown from within and suffocate, due to the full weight of one's body being hung in such a manner. Scripture records Jesus died very quickly, in less than a day. The spear thrust in his side was necessary to prove he had really died, because his death was so quick. Yet even Jesus' crucifixion took the entire day.

So, the person in question could not have died in only five hours from having his arms tied to some bars. He died from something else. Whether or not this “something else” was a homicide or not, I do not know.

Could you please give me the chapter and verse you got this information about the whipping from. I've read the relevant passages in the bible pretty thoroughly and haven't read that. And that thing about the nails too. I've never seen anything about nails either. Did you get your information from that Mel Gibson movie?

This thread/discussion is on Iraq and 121 dying in a car bomb explosion. If you have a problem with Barney's portrayal of the crucifiction, take it up with him in PM or another thread. There's an entire forum dedicated to religion... go there and knock yourself out.

If you have something pertinent to THIS subject, please feel free to contribute.

Barney brought it up, not me.

SenaxFlatulus · #26 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 01:48 PM

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Barney brought it up, not me.

Yes, you're absolutely right.

When in discussions about the subject of threads going off topic, the other mods have brought up the fact that while threads are expected to stay rigidly on topic, most veer off a bit. It's okay to be a tad loose as modding goes, but to encourage it to go even farther off topic only serves to blur the line even more.

I can only hope users who see this as it happens will try to be a little more courteous to the original poster who did have a specific discussion in mind.

Mack · #27 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 07:23 PM

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This has been happening for the last 2 years. You can't expect this "outrage" thing every time it happens. In fact complaining about of "outrage" in general is idiotic.

Why was my post edited by a moderator?

Name-calling, Mack. Can I expect your thanks for editing so cleverly that even you couldn't tell what was done?

I didn't call him/her an idiot. I just said it was idiotic to complain about a lack of outrage. Just like it's idiotic to think 2 + 2 = 5.

The12thMan · #28 (**permalink**) 02-04-2007, 07:51 PM

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I didn't call him/her an idiot. I just said it was idiotic to complain about a lack of outrage. Just like it's idiotic to think 2 + 2 = 5.

Unless you're suggesting that I unfairly changed the meaning of your post, stop complaining. The gist of your post is the same. I wonder if you even know what change I made.

nawbut · #29 (**permalink**) 02-05-2007, 06:19 AM

...a suicide bomber.

apotropoxy · #30 (**permalink**) 02-05-2007, 06:29 AM

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...a suicide bomber.

The locution "suicide bomber" is one Faux News has been using for a few years now. It is meant to mislead the lemmings into believing that:

1. The perpetrator of the blast was not killed, thereby denying him/her imputable hero status among his/her supporters.
2. The bombing was actually just a criminal act and not a political one.

Faux News hold to the old maxim: Why Tell the Truth When You Can Lie?

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