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you were the one that said it was to long to read and to cut and paste what i wanted. i think you should hve read the rest of it ON YOUR OWN.

"Therefore, it is interesting to make a comparison between the basic features of armed forces on the one side, and those of police and security forces on the other. There is a number of basic differences between armed forces and police and security forces which are presented below.

Firstly, their missions are different. The fundamental mission of police and security forces is to protect all persons against illegal acts and to serve the community. Armed forces generally have as mission to defend the territory of the state against foreign intervention."

if you would have actually read it instead of thinking it ws somehow "beneath" your intellectual competence, you would have seen that there is a defined difference between police forces and "armed forces and how each is engaged in SOTW. now, you just look like a fool
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Oh Dear.

One last time....

None of what you have mentioned is in any way relevent to your claim that the US invasion of Iraq was a United Nations intervention. Your cut `n pastes do not even include the word "Iraq" and basic principles of law enforcement do not constitute authority for the invasion of a sovereign nation.

This is absurd.
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heres to the reading -impaired

you were the one that said it was to long to read and to cut and paste what i wanted. i think you should hve read the rest of it ON YOUR OWN.

"Therefore, it is interesting to make a comparison between the basic features of armed forces on the one side, and those of police and security forces on the other. There is a number of basic differences between armed forces and police and security forces which are presented below.

Firstly, their missions are different. The fundamental mission of police and security forces is to protect all persons against illegal acts and to serve the community. Armed forces generally have as mission to defend the territory of the state against foreign intervention."

if you would have actually read it instead of thinking it ws somehow "beneath" your intellectual competence, you would have seen that there is a defined difference between police forces and "armed forces and how each is engaged in SOTW. now, you just look like a fool
Have I got this right?

So it wasn't a military invasion.

You contend it was a posse of sheriffs?
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except all the insurgents re not from Iraq. Dont you think it is possible that Iran is funding this?


There is no doubt that Iran was involved but the civil war started before Iran had any significant involvement. It is also no doubt that the Iran involvement has grown as the chaos increased. In essence Iran jumped into an opportunity that we helped create.

then by the defnition you used it can't be a civil war
No Iran jumped into a civil war as an opportunity. The American Revolution was inessence a civil war the fact that the French jumped in did not make less so nor did it make it a non Revolutionary civil war.
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Gemany, the USSR and others stepped into the Spanish Civil War. Did that make it a non civil Apanish war ?
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I'm sure I've posted this link before?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2041713,00.html

With all those insurgents in custody you would have thought one at least would have cracked under interrogation and given the game away. But then they just might be home grown Iraqis.
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Oh Dear.

One last time....

None of what you have mentioned is in any way relevent to your claim that the US invasion of Iraq was a United Nations intervention. Your cut `n pastes do not even include the word "Iraq" and basic principles of law enforcement do not constitute authority for the invasion of a sovereign nation.

This is absurd.
Really, cause I could have sworn that any MEMBER OF THE UN can bring up these UN RESOLUTIONS as a reason for action (as in Vietnam). And now you're saying thats not the case. Whats upsurd is that you think it somehow doesn't apply here. Whats even more upsurd is that you think you hve some kind of 'keen' insight into these mtters tht others don't.

Go hide your head in the sand some more. The world won't miss you.
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you were the one that said it was to long to read and to cut and paste what i wanted. i think you should hve read the rest of it ON YOUR OWN.

"Therefore, it is interesting to make a comparison between the basic features of armed forces on the one side, and those of police and security forces on the other. There is a number of basic differences between armed forces and police and security forces which are presented below.

Firstly, their missions are different. The fundamental mission of police and security forces is to protect all persons against illegal acts and to serve the community. Armed forces generally have as mission to defend the territory of the state against foreign intervention."

if you would have actually read it instead of thinking it ws somehow "beneath" your intellectual competence, you would have seen that there is a defined difference between police forces and "armed forces and how each is engaged in SOTW. now, you just look like a fool
Have I got this right?

So it wasn't a military invasion.

You contend it was a posse of sheriffs?
If you read the resolutions yourself you would understand how this applies. We are taught the principles of these resolutions in the military. Why do you think that is so?
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"a war between citizens of the same state." = CIVIL WAR

except all the insurgents re not from Iraq. Dont you think it is possible that Iran is funding this?


There is no doubt that Iran was involved but the civil war started before Iran had any significant involvement. It is also no doubt that the Iran involvement has grown as the chaos increased. In essence Iran jumped into an opportunity that we helped create.

then by the defnition you used it can't be a civil war
No Iran jumped into a civil war as an opportunity. The American Revolution was inessence a civil war the fact that the French jumped in did not make less so nor did it make it a non Revolutionary civil war.
You are still going to contend this after Iran commits an act of war by taking the British sailors?
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Really, cause I could have sworn that any MEMBER OF THE UN can bring up these UN RESOLUTIONS as a reason for action (as in Vietnam).
"any MEMBER OF THE UN" does not equal a "UN intervention".

It`s painfully obvious but you seem determined to adhere to your delusion. Perhaps you`ve held it for so long it`s hard to part with?
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