http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,...592584,00.html

A new weapon in the war that is is not a civil war - Chlorine Gas !! You know the NeoConArtists may be right this is not a civil war because neither the Sunni's nor the Shiite's have been very "civil". At least when they use use chlorine gas that should kill bacteria and most viruses it contacts so the place will be be "cleaner" and you got it boys and girlees more CIVIL.

Iraqi general intones "[ "Terrorists are using dirty means," quote]The gas cloud in Baghdad, meanwhile, suggests possible new and coordinated strategies by bombers trying to unleash toxic — and potentially deadly — materials. "Terrorists are using dirty means," said Brig. Gen. Qassim Moussawi, an Iraqi military spokesman. [/quote]

Wow that was profound Mr. Iraqi General Sir Habiib !!

W. Patrick Lang, a former official at the Defense Intelligence Agency, said

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Wow that was profound Mr. Iraqi General Sir Habiib !!

W. Patrick Lang, a former official at the Defense Intelligence Agency, said [/quote]

Latest WhiteHouse think tank has admitted Iraq is a Civil War.

Chambers Dictionary
civil war "a war between citizens of the same state."

The Random House unabridged dictionary defines a civil war as "a war between political factions or regions within the same country."

But Bush argues Iraq does not qualify and that a true civil war involves organized military units contesting for territory on behalf of two competing governments or quasi-governments.

If this is disorganised what will happen we the Iraqis get organised.

3 Tankers 8 Dead so far in a co-ordinated attack.

AshleyKennedy says Yup !! W and the NeoConArtists are sort of right in that theirs is just one definition of 'civil' war. They conveniently "forget" that there are people who can think and there are other definitions. If you have been around here for a while you would have noticed that the Mavain of MAYBERRY on the forum tries to convince us thinking people that the American Civil War was not a 'civil war'. Maybe he is correct, there were some very uncivilized things done by the Rebs and also by the Union forces.

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wow. so thinking people can define what civil war means and dont need to be told by no military experts. ok thinking people. lets see your definitions of whata civil war is.


go!

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

Iraq

so basically, you are saying that Western world ideals such as western law were not presented in the Middle east prior to the UN intervention in Iraq, and that is the major cause of unrest.

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

180 degrees out GovernmentCheese those ideals your talking about were missing from the Western hemisphere. Illegal war. But now Iraq is in a civil war.

Bush and co. are afraid to use the term Civil war to describe events in Iraq.

I thought Iraq was occupied....and not a sovreign state. Guess that was yesterday..




Anyway wonderful world we live in when the so called "humanitarians" want a war called a Civil War so they can promptly say...
"They are only killing themselves and its not our probem"

Reminds me of.
"He's only killing his own people and is contained"




WHat this story adn other similar ones recently show is what you are willgin to give up in the face of. Terrorists who use any means to murder civilians.

[quote="GovernmentCheese";p="352983the UN intervention in Iraq[/quote]

UN? Get real.

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describing an event by the correct name is hardly wishing for it. It's called reality.

Correct terminology allows the problem to be assessed and reacted to in a more productive manner.

It means that refugees/displaced persons can be treated with a more certain knowledge that they will return to their own country if encamped in neighbouring countries so the aid will be short term. With the term occupation the refugees get labeld economic refugees and a whole new set of aid or aims are needed.