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KARACHI, Pakistan — Two bombs exploded Thursday night near a truck carrying former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto on her triumphant return to Pakistan after eight years in exile, killing at least 108 people and wounding 150, an official said. Party workers and police said Bhutto was unhurt.

Associated Press photographer B.K. Bangash at the scene said he saw between 50 and 60 dead or badly injured people. He said some of the bodies were ripped apart.

An initial small explosion was followed by a huge blast just feet from the front of the truck carrying Bhutto during a procession through Karachi. The blast shattered windows in her vehicle and set a police escort vehicle on fire.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303346,00.html

There was also small arms fired at her vehicle during it...and the death toll is likely to rise.
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KARACHI, Pakistan — Two bombs exploded Thursday night near a truck carrying former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto on her triumphant return to Pakistan after eight years in exile, killing at least 108 people and wounding 150, an official said. Party workers and police said Bhutto was unhurt.

Associated Press photographer B.K. Bangash at the scene said he saw between 50 and 60 dead or badly injured people. He said some of the bodies were ripped apart.

An initial small explosion was followed by a huge blast just feet from the front of the truck carrying Bhutto during a procession through Karachi. The blast shattered windows in her vehicle and set a police escort vehicle on fire.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303346,00.html

There was also small arms fired at her vehicle during it...and the death toll is likely to rise.
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KARACHI, Pakistan — Two bombs exploded Thursday night near a truck carrying former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto on her triumphant return to Pakistan after eight years in exile, killing at least 108 people and wounding 150, an official said. Party workers and police said Bhutto was unhurt.

Associated Press photographer B.K. Bangash at the scene said he saw between 50 and 60 dead or badly injured people. He said some of the bodies were ripped apart.

An initial small explosion was followed by a huge blast just feet from the front of the truck carrying Bhutto during a procession through Karachi. The blast shattered windows in her vehicle and set a police escort vehicle on fire.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303346,00.html

There was also small arms fired at her vehicle during it...and the death toll is likely to rise.
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Let's see now.....who is noted for "twin explosions?" Oh yeah......that would be Al Qaeda.

But nah......we don't have any "war on terrorism" taking place. Nah....
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Let's see now.....who is noted for "twin explosions?" Oh yeah......that would be Al Qaeda.

But nah......we don't have any "war on terrorism" taking place. Nah....

Hmmm, maybe if Bush had attacked Pakistan instead of Iraq? But Nah,...we don't have anyone in the upper crust of government that can think past loyality to Haliburton.

I noticed the end note ~ "After Musharraf seized power, she was charged with illegally amassing properties and bank accounts overseas while in power and she left Pakistan."

Don't suppose a few bankers or farmers might have sought revenge? You can still say it was ALQ bankers or farmers,....you know,...to keep you story logical. If someone stole my land I might come gunning for them my first chance as well ~ but then Real Vietnam veterans are a lil short on the fuse.

While the bombs got some response in casualities, it was poorly planned and executed. The small bomb was to halt the convoy, the large one to take out their target, and provide adequate fires into the kill zone. But I don't think they planned on so many people parading around the van to block the blast & enemy small arms fires, or thought about the type of vehicle she would be riding in. They were obviously set up in advance for the ambush, but the bomb should have been placed inside a manhole cover the bus would travel over & maybe 3-400 gals of drums of oil & gas to aid the upward explosion as the bus passed overhead. The steel manhole cover would go right through the bus like a rocket and the fuel would inciderate everyone inside.

Anyway their timing was off, there should have been 4 RPGs posed into the target area, and that alone tells me it was a small group who probably baked bread down down the street and spent the day at the camels flea market. No RPGs - no financed ALQ ambush. This was small buck stuff.

PS ~ It was Bush's fault. He underestimated the effectiveness of his "Bring it on" statement, that was not taken seriously by the ALQ, and thus the butchers and ba(n)kers were left behind.
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Let's see now.....who is noted for "twin explosions?" Oh yeah......that would be Al Qaeda.

But nah......we don't have any "war on terrorism" taking place. Nah....
Naarrr that's an old IRA trick - and they learnt it off the S.O.E.

Have you given rouge elements within the Pakistani Secret Service a thought?
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You mean there are terrorists in Pakistan? Well color me shocked. Good thing we invaded Iraq. That will teach them.
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Yeah - this is the thing that many Westerners fail to understand.

If you ask a Muslim about "freedom", you'll often hear him start talking about "corruption".

'Cause when it comes to political representation, the thing they hate more than anything else, is politicians who steal from the people.

And in the Middle East, there's a lot of those. I mean, look at Yassir Arafat. That moron could have had a Palestinian state, at least three times, but all he's got instead was a villa near Paris.

So, it's like, you ask these guys which political system they prefer, and they'll tell you they don't care, as long as it takes care of the corruption.

And guess what the best way they know how to do that is? Why, it's the way prescribed in the Quran, of course - where the penalties for thievery are very harsh - it's like, they chop of your hands for stealing a piece of bread, that kind of thing.

That's an example of a "cultural value", 'cause here, it's like, some little kid steals a piece of gum and he might get grounded for a week - there, he might end up without hands for the rest of his life. That's how seriously they take this "corruption" thing.

I mean, they look at this as their "primary" source of possible political unrest - in much the same way, that we might consider it to be "terrorism", or the Chinese might consider it to be "democratic agitators", or whatever - it's like, Muslims are scared to death of what corruption might do to their culture, and I mean, look around - when you read the writings of OBL, and those Pakistani groups, and those Egyptian groups, and so on - who are the objects of their hatred? I mean, besides Israel and the US? It's the Saudis, right? And these are the guys who give them the most money, and the most support, right? But they hate the Saudi royal family and everything it stands for - and you know why? 'Cause they're corrupt - they steal money from oil revenues (that Muslims consider to "belong to the people", so to speak), and use it to line their pockets. And that's also part of why a political resolution in Iraq is so difficult, 'cause no one trusts anyone else not to line their pockets.

So.... there you have it. "Value systems"....
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Let's see now.....who is noted for "twin explosions?" Oh yeah......that would be Al Qaeda.

But nah......we don't have any "war on terrorism" taking place. Nah....
and the USA is innocent in the war on terrorism?

Getting pakistani leaders to kill their own people is stupid.
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KARACHI, Pakistan — Former Prime Minister Benezir Bhutto, her return from exile shattered by a homicide attack that killed up to 136 people, blamed militants Friday for trying to kill her and said she would not "surrender our great nation" to them.

Bhutto said there were two attackers in the deadly bombing, and that her security guards found a third man armed with a pistol and another with a suicide vest. Ahead of her arrival, she said, she was warned suicide squads were dispatched to kill her.

"There was one suicide squad from the Taliban elements, one suicide squad from al-Qaida, one suicide squad from Pakistani Taliban and a fourth -- a group -- I believe from Karachi," she said.

Baitullah Mehsud, a top militant leader on the unstable Afghan border, threatened this month to meet Bhutto's return to Pakistan with suicide attacks, according to local media reports. An associate of Mehsud, however, denied Taliban involvement.

Bhutto said her guards prevented more carnage.

"They stood their ground, and they stood all around the truck, and they refused to let the suicide bomber -- the second suicide bomber -- get near the truck," she said
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303517,00.html
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