Hey what happened to old man on fire? Anyway!~ with all due respect, if you do not know the difference between those that intentionally target civilians and non combatants as a normal, indeed as nearly the only way to carry out a military attack vs. a professional military that only plans and attacks (in over 90% of the cases) armed combatants, we, no you have a problem with reality not I! I am astonished that most of the Usual suspects can rationalize beheading a school girl is the same thing as killing an armed enemy in a fire fight.
Originally Posted by Man on Fire
Source me MOF....show where USA soldiers as an normal order of business do such things as intentionally target non combatants as normal operational procedure. Now any fool knows there are going to be atrocities where professional soldiers go berserk but that is not normal soldiering!
Soldiers target women and children,they have been bombed by US military forces in many countries including Iraq,Afghanistan,Pakistan,Soma lia and Yemen.
Source that proves of lends evidence that the USA intentionally targeted non combatants? The wedding parties I am thinking had a few special guests there. The USA was targeting the terrorists that DECLARED WAR ON THE USA. Even if you could provide a couple even ten or twenty incidents where non combatants were targeted (you won't) still that is not the standard operating procedure! For terrorists its the ONLY operating procedure! And that is the crux of the problem. When terrorists hide among innocents there is going to be collateral damage. Know what? If Ben Laden came to my land with a platoon of his scroungy stooges and asked to have a party or just hang out I would tell him to leave or they could hang in that big oak tree.
The Americans have bombed wedding parties, a few of them. They bombed them on purpose,they did not make a mistake,they wiped them out and then afterwards they make excuses.
Please use quote tags when you make such claims, there usually is a reason when the tags are not used....like I did not say it. Here is all I could find;
Your line about how you hold all the Palestinians responsible for the deaths caused by a few members of Hamas or whoever is a joke and it puts you in the position where going on your own logic you are to blame for the murder of children in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
"Personally I empathize with the so called Palestinian people, in much the same way I empathize with the homeless that come to our mission for help. Most of them really feel they are a real people because they like the usual suspects have bought into the Propaganda and the manipulation and the lies that Israel owes them a homeland."
"You can not separate the two, Hamas is Palestine’s army. So I reject the claim that Palestinians are not guilty of terrorism by association. Maybe not all but enough exist to make the delineation that the Palestinians support Hamas and their actions. "
"That is a bit rich coming from someone that defends some of the actions of terrorists ie the Palestinians/Hamas."
Where do I say ALL pals are terrorists?
So you either misunderstand or are intentionally twisting what I said or I may have a hidden typo somewhere that you are saving... Here is what I meant ; The Palestinians that ALLOW the terrorist HAMAS among them and assist them are guilty by associating and giving aid and comfort to the enemy. In war you can be summarily executed for giving aid and comfort to the enemy and or collaborating. So I do not see where my logic fails. I do not think Palestinians that hate HAMAS are guilty of anything, heck no I would give those people a metal!! So again as I said, I do not approve of most war. That includes war that my elected officials (not I) get us (the USA) into that are not clear cut self defense. Afghanistan was an exception because we were trying to exterminate those that murdered thousands of our civilians. Those chaps have been paying the price for those 9/11 atrocities, personally speaking I think their debt is not even half paid. However I would be for bringing our troops home with the promise if there is a next time we will come to stay.
Thanks for your reply~
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