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    Angry This is war

    I post it here, because all war is terrorism.

    -Warning: graphic footage-


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    Footage of Kim Phuc - 0.55 to 1.19 minutes.

    One of the most iconic images to come out of the Vietnam War.

    kimphuc.jpg
    "The eagle watches from the mountain.
    As the warriors turn into fools.
    And the dice are thrown on sacred ground.
    And they move closer to the truth"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizarddust View Post
    Footage of Kim Phuc - 0.55 to 1.19 minutes.

    One of the most iconic images to come out of the Vietnam War.

    kimphuc.jpg
    Ja. That's modern warfare, of course, burning children, killing their parents.. civilian casualties, collateral damage, etc. Is it right to simply blame their leaders for what we do to them? The above is like Hiroshima and Nagasaki all over again, civilians who may or may not support the war in any capacity being burned alive by modern weaponry.

    Even now, we can't really avoid it. It's good that we try, of course.

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    Last edited by Mushroom; Jun 04 2012 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    Of course, American and British propaganda were 100% true while Nazi and Japanese propaganda were 100% false

    Not sure where we'd all stand on the Soviet variety, though. They murdered millions before and after the war, but they were our allies in the war. Tough call..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandal View Post
    I post it here, because all war is terrorism.
    Depends on what side of the war you're on. War is Hell, but not all war is terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSigMason View Post
    Depends on what side of the war you're on. War is Hell, but not all war is terrorism.
    All offensive war certainly is, but I have much more sympathy for the defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandal View Post
    All offensive war certainly is, but I have much more sympathy for the defender.
    The most abhorrent war is, imo, a "preemptive war of defence". Its basically giving aggressive war a new name. Its one of the most (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up manipulations of reality I've ever seen.
    Last edited by MegadethFan; Jun 10 2012 at 01:28 AM.
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegadethFan View Post
    The most abhorrent war is, imo, a "preemptive war of defence". Its basically giving aggressive war a new name. Its one of the most (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up manipulations of reality I've ever seen.
    Yep, that's for (*)(*)(*)(*)ed sure. To think: That's the way Hitler & friends played it, and that's what Israel wants to do with Iran. Even the USA arguably did this at least once already in Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandal View Post
    All offensive war certainly is, but I have much more sympathy for the defender.
    The best defense is a good offense.

    “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things, the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
    ― John Stuart Mill
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