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Many people in the U.S. and elsewhere believe that the september 11th attacks on the world trade center and the pentagon where an "inside job" or "should be investigated". Are these claims credible or are they fabrications? Take a look at the facts. What I'm proposing to anyone that believes in this conspiracy is if it was an inside job, a plot created by George Bush, why weren't the hijackers from Iraq or Afghanistan in order to encourage the invasion of either country. What is the significance of the "controlled demolition" of building seven. Why would anyone put thermite on the support beams of of the world trade center? Why would anyone shoot a missile at the pentagon? There is a lot of evidence of of funny stuff surrounding the event, but with no clear hypothosis of how it ads up to a conspiracy.
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If they cared at all about Facts they wouldn't be peddling such absurdity to begin with.
The 9/11 truthers are the worst. But they are just the most extreme.



9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, US position in the world, what Iraqis think, what the world thinks, etc etc....
They know it all without having any clue nor care what actually is.
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You have to agree that some strange things where going on at the time. Such as the orders issued to military bases for fighters to stand down, and the thermite traces found in pools of cooled steel. Also the 77 train bombings in London where very strange. For example a training excersize on train bombings by the police was taking place on the same day and time as the event. I don't think 911 was caried out by any polical body but the 77 bombings could have been. I myself am pretty interested in the facts and consider myself a centrist.

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You have to agree that some strange things where going on at the time. Such as the orders issued to military bases for fighters to stand down, and the thermite traces found in pools of cooled steel.
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Such a thing is not unprecedented. When the Allies invaded Normandy in 1944, the German command in France happened to be in the middle of an exercise game-planning exactly that. When news of the invasion came in, the German commanders continued with their exercise -- but started sending real orders to their units based on it.
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You have to agree that some strange things where going on at the time. Such as the orders issued to military bases for fighters to stand down, and the thermite traces found in pools of cooled steel. Also the 77 train bombings in London where very strange. For example a training excersize on train bombings by the police was taking place on the same day and time as the event. I don't think 911 was caried out by any polical body but the 77 bombings could have been. I myself am pretty interested in the facts and consider myself a centrist.
First of all, as I earlier the air bases couldn't intercept the plane and in fact, the laws changed to allow the interception of another commercial airliner after the attack. Also, do you know where thermite can be found? Drywall.
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Also, do you know where thermite can be found? Drywall.
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[/quote]First of all, as I earlier the air bases couldn't intercept the plane and in fact, the laws changed to allow the interception of another commercial airliner after the attack.[/quote]

This makes sense. Before 911 hijackings such as this had never been seen where the hijackers didn't make any demands and had no fear of being killed so it wasn't going to save anyone's life if the plane was shot down.

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I'm not sure I'm willing to believe that this was a coincidence. I suppose we would have to look at how often these training exercises occurred. I couldn't find any footage of any worker talking about liquid steel found. Of course that is one biggest pieces of evidence 911 conspiracy theorist use to promote the idea of a controlled demolition. Steel melts around 2500 degrees Fahrenheit. Steel only needs to be heated to around 1000-1500 degrees to loose %50 of its load bearing capacity. Is it possible other factors could have been involved? Natural gas or oil possibly? If molten steel was actually found this would be a large piece of evidence in the favor of 911 truth.

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The main thing that has always bothered me was the inside trading. Put options were made on the United Airlines, (a sort of bet that the stock will drop) just before the attack. And not just a small amount either, it was many times the average. http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html

Also, while I don't like to speculate what could have happened at the pentagon, it just seem ridiculous that an aircraft could enter the airspace of the pentagon without them knowing it. No anti-air missles were fired from the well known batteries sorrounding the pentagon, and Mineta testified to this.
Why on earth would Cheney purposefully order the batteries down, unless he wanted the plane/missle/whatever to hit the pentagon?

Also, I think the poster asked what the signifigance of building 7 was. Well, if explosives were planted in that building, who is to say they weren't planted in all of the World Trade Center buildings? Not only that, but Larry Sylverstine knew about them.

Also, Jhon O'neill quit his job at the FBI because of repeated stonewalls by Bush himself to stop investigating Al' Qeada and Bin Laden. Very suspicious stuff sorrounding that.

Now, I won't go so far as to say that the Bush administration 'planned' the attack, but I certainly wouldn't put it past them to let it happen.
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You are correct, and it goes much deeper than that. We know the Johnson Administration faked the Gulf of Tolkin Incident to escalate the War in SE Asia and we now know he also assisted Israel attack the USS Liberty under False Flag (Egyptian) pretense to get us in the Middle East. False Flag attacks are normal to justfy an attack on a perceived enemy. A conspiracy is more likely than a Trillion to One coincidence happening twice. Both the WTC and the London 7/7 attacks took place during so called training excercises that were "Enacting" the exact same scenerio that actually took place. Visor Corp ran the London Excercise and I won't say who had control of 9/11's Hi-Jacked plane crashing into Skyscraper excercise that took place that Tuesday morning. Neither government denies these were scheduled, and just call it coincidence There's alot more but there's nothing that can be done now, the 9/11 commision took care of that. There are certain things we have to live with, and have to put up with. I know it's hard to believe but, that's what they count on. Our "It can't be true" and "I don't believe it" human trait is predictable and understandable, regardless of the evidence. We must move forward.
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Wow what a bunch of conspiracy theory crap.
If you want to know the truth watch 9/11 Beyond Conspiracy. It will show you the truth
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