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Old 03-09-2008, 09:49 AM
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Please tell us how al qaeda is different in Afghanistan than it is in Iraq? I can't wait to hear this explaination.
Now correct me if I am wrong. We invaded Afghanistan because Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were responsible for the attacks on 9/11 and that was their stronghold. Am I correct so far?

Now Al Qaeda didn't go into Iraq until we invaded Iraq? Am I correct?

I guess I am wondering why didn't we crush Al Qaeda in Afghanistan then we wouldn't have the problem of them being in Iraq.

Does that make any sense?


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Now correct me if I am wrong. We invaded Afghanistan because Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were responsible for the attacks on 9/11 and that was their stronghold. Am I correct so far?

Now Al Qaeda didn't go into Iraq until we invaded Iraq? Am I correct?

I guess I am wondering why didn't we crush Al Qaeda in Afghanistan then we wouldn't have the problem of them being in Iraq.

Does that make any sense?


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Did Afghanistan attack us? No, so why should we make the innocent Afghans suffer? Why do want to attack innocent people? al qaeda is killing innocent Afghans and Iraqis, but you only advocate letting them kill Afghans, why do you hate Afghans so much?

Ya see, I'm using your great liberal logic, pretty neat huh?
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Did Afghanistan attack us? No, so why should we make the innocent Afghans suffer? Why do want to attack innocent people? al qaeda is killing innocent Afghans and Iraqis, but you only advocate letting them kill Afghans, why do you hate Afghans so much?

Ya see, I'm using your great liberal logic, pretty neat huh?
Neat that the logic you are trying to use is pretty weak.

Now let's see the Taliban controlled or had captured most of Afghanistan. Osma Bin Laden and Al Qaeda's Base was/is in Afghanistan in which the Taliban allowed them to operate out of. Now they are responsible for the attacks on the US on 9/11 now maybe its just me, but what country would you attack? Uzbekistan.


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Neat that the logic you are trying to use is pretty weak.

Now let's see the Taliban controlled or had captured most of Afghanistan. Osma Bin Laden and Al Qaeda's Base was/is in Afghanistan in which the Taliban allowed them to operate out of. Now they are responsible for the attacks on the US on 9/11 now maybe its just me, but what country would you attack? Uzbekistan.


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Then why didn't we attack Pakistan, because that is really where they are, and why didn't we just blow Afghanistan off the map, and that way, a real strong message would be sent.

You still can't seem to distinguish between al qaeda in Iraq or Afghanistan. The only difference is their logistics, are they not the same al qaeda? Are we not at war with al qaeda? Isn't al qaeda slaughtering both innocent Afghans and Iraqis?

Would you find them to stop killing innocents if we left either country? That is the logic you imply, that they will stop if we just leave. And, if we leave, then they can go on to control those countries again by using brutal tactics and fear, yep, makes sense to me, great job SBB. I'm sure Obama will make a fine president using your logic.
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I think we never should have gone into Iraq, but now that we're there, I think alot of problems will arise if we pull out.
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We would not have a Nation If we had let the French stay after they helped us get our freedom from the British Crown... the same is true of Iraq... no people can make a government for another people and yes there will be civil wars as there were - Here In The United States of America.

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You've opened my eyes to the al-Qaeda base in Iraq, and I'm wondering why my president didn't attack them. Are there any other countries that have al-Qaeda bases that we should invade?
Because we were forced to sit on the border and wait for many weeks. This was after almost a year of deliberation between the UN and Iraq about weapons inspections. They left before we could kill them. Then they came back.

And some additional information.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597217/posts

"Many were in Arabic – with no English translation – including one the administration said showed that Iraqi intelligence officials suspected al-Qaeda members were inside Iraq in 2002."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...6/629wqpgh.asp

The link to the Iraqi documents is still not working, and I have not received a response from the webmaster. But.

" Some of the document titles I requested are suggestive, others less so. It's possible that the "Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity" was critical of one or another Taliban policies. But it's equally possible, given Uday's known role as a go-between for the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda, that something more nefarious was afoot.
What was discussed at the "Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government" in November 2000? It could be something innocuous. Maybe not. But it would be nice to know more."
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I think we never should have gone into Iraq, but now that we're there, I think alot of problems will arise if we pull out.
Just for curiousity, could you name one problem that Iraq will have AFTER the US leaves that it doesn't have now?
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Just for curiousity, could you name one problem that Iraq will have AFTER the US leaves that it doesn't have now?
Oh gee.....lemme think......... Taken over by Iran? Re-taken over by the Baathists?
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