This song you might like, it's from the 1700s..



"Over the Hills and Far Away"

Here's fourteen shillings on the drum
For those who'll volunteer to come
To list and fight the foe today
Over the hills and far away.

So fall in lads behind the drum
With Colours blazing like the sun
Along the road to come-what-may
Over the hills and far away.

Through smoke and fire and shot and shell
Unto the very walls of hell
We shall stand and we shall stay
Over the hills and far away.

If I should fall to rise no more
As many comrades did before
Ask the pipes and drums to play
Over the hills and far away.

Let Kings and tyrants come and go
I'll stand ajudged by what I know
A soldier's life I'll ne'er gainsay
Over the hills and far away.


chorus:
O'er the hills and o'er the main
Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain

King George commands and we obey
Over the hills and far away.

Bush and Clinton: both wrong.

Works for me.

I refute the fact you state above that the report refutes everyone of these claims. It refutes none of them. They can parse the language all they want, connections, ties, links, but the fact is that they did have communications between them, and that is what the story is all about.

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We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. -- Ann Coulter

So, your sentiment is that communications means there was a connection.

Secretary Rice has talked to Iran about Iraq.

Does that mean that we have a connection to Iran?

Are we weeks or months away from giving them WMD?


You see, you can nitpick all you want, but it doesn't prove the claims of the President; claims that have been debunked by the pentagon, the CIA and the 9.11 comission.

Ditto! And I will support our president (republican or democrat), our country and our troops and their mission. And you can go on and disparage our president, America, our country, our troops and their mission. Ain't America great! Good thing we've had people in this country who were willing to give up their lives so you can do just that.

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We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. -- Ann Coulter

And Hillary too?

She goes under the fear-monger bus, as far as I'm concerned.

That's super, what you can't do with any accuracy is describe what I think.

From the 9-11 Commission Report:

There is also evidence that around this time [1997] Bin Ladin sent out a number of feelers to the Iraqi regime, offering some cooperation. None are reported to have received a significant response. According to one report, Saddam Hussein's efforts at this time to rebuild relations with the Saudis and other Middle Eastern regimes led him to stay clear of Bin Ladin.


Since Saddam wasn't interested, the report says, nothing came of the contacts. But by the next year, Saddam, struggling under increasing pressure from the United States, appeared to have changed his mind, and there were more talks:

In mid-1998, the situation reversed; it was Iraq that reportedly took the initiative. In March 1998, after Bin Ladin's public fatwa against the United States, two al Qaeda members reportedly went to Iraq to meet with Iraqi intelligence. In July, an Iraqi delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with the Taliban and then with Bin Ladin. Sources reported that one, or perhaps both, of these meetings was apparently arranged through Bin Ladin's Egyptian deputy, Zawahiri, who had ties of his own to the Iraqis. In 1998, Iraq was under intensifying U.S. pressure, which culminated in a series of large air attacks in December.


The meetings went on, the report says, until Iraq offered to formalize its relationship with al Qaeda:

Similar meetings between Iraqi officials and Bin Ladin or his aides may have occurred in 1999 during a period of some reported strains with the Taliban. According to the reporting, Iraqi officials offered Bin Ladin a safe haven in Iraq. Bin Ladin declined, apparently judging that his circumstances in Afghanistan remained more favorable than the Iraqi alternative. The reports describe friendly contacts and indicate some common themes in both sides' hatred of the United States.


http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200407230835.asp