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For all those who continue to believe the extremists philosophy of bin Laden and his followers is only about the U.S.---and is being hyped by Bush---or is not serious---think again. Bin Laden also claims that Muslims don't repond by mocking Jesus. He's right: they respond by MURDERING instead. bin Laden and this philosophy seeks to prevent others' freedom of speech, seeks to dictate how we all will live. NOT just the U.S.; but the entire world. Everything that Pres. Bush has ever said about al Qaeda and the threat is REAL and was NOT hyped. Tony Blair knew it. It's about time EVERYONE learns this.



(CNN) -- A new statement attributed to al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden condemns European countries for siding with the United States in Afghanistan and for allowing the publication of cartoons considered insulting to Islam's prophet, Mohammed.


Terrorist leader Osama bin Laden spoke on a video released by al Qaeda in September.

"This is the greater and more serious tragedy, and the reckoning for it will be more severe," the speaker in the five-minute audio recording says.

Mocking Islam's founder violated "the etiquettes of dispute and fighting," warned the voice attributed to bin Laden.

He said Muslims have not responded by mocking Jesus, whom they consider a prophet as well.

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He is after all our freedoms.

I want the Pakistan to permit NATO troops to mount cross their border operations from Afghanistan. Maybe the SOB will get caught then.

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It's freedom of speech and freedom of press. Danmark's newspaper was exercising its democratic right. Fully support the exposition of the picture.




We shall get our troops in Pakistan and get this bastard, exterminate the filthy terrorists...
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We shall get our troops in Pakistan and get this bastard, exterminate the filthy terrorists...
The U.S. already had Bin Laden, and the evidence clearly shows that they let him go: http://www.911pressfortruth.com

Because if Bin Laden was captured, they couldn't have pushed for the invasion of Iraq. Wake up people. Maybe one day you sleepy heads will get out of bed and smell the coffee...
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For all those who continue to believe the extremists philosophy of bin Laden and his followers is only about the U.S.---
No, it's not just about the U.S. It's about any country that backs the U.S. and/or interferes in the Middle East. This is specifically why Bin Laden mentioned in his truce offer that his groups were not targeting Sweden and Switzerland.

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It is indeed being hyped by Bush. It has always been hyped by Bush. It is nothing but propaganda. The government could have easily stopped 9/11. The government could have easily captured Bin Laden. The facts are irrefutable.
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For all those who continue to believe the extremists philosophy of bin Laden and his followers is only about the U.S.---and is being hyped by Bush---or is not serious---think again.
Yeah, OBL is real serious, he's dropped the whole "Off our holy land" business to declare Jihad on a cartoon.


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I am not even the tiniest little bit afraid of Bin Laden. He can't take anybody's freedoms.

No, for taking away our freedoms, you pretty much have to look at our government at home in the U.S. They're taking away our freedoms in the name of protecting them.

But I'm not actually scared of them, either, 'cause they can't take away our freedoms either. Freedom can only be given away and I don't intend to surrender it.
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No, it's not just about the U.S. It's about any country that backs the U.S. and/or interferes in the Middle East. This is specifically why Bin Laden mentioned in his truce offer that his groups were not targeting Sweden and Switzerland.
Oh yeah? What does a cartoonist in Denmark have to do with the U.S.?



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It is indeed being hyped by Bush. It has always been hyped by Bush. It is nothing but propaganda. The government could have easily stopped 9/11. The government could have easily captured Bin Laden. The facts are irrefutable.
Yeah right. That explains why al Qaeda has committed terrorist attacks in France too. You know France----that wonderful backer of the U.S.??? <G>

Sorry, your "Blame America First" argument doesn't hold water.

And so---you say Bush has "hyped" it, eh? So, you don't think the threat of terrorism is serious? I'll keep that in mind next time there's an attack and you explode into your "Blame Bush" tirade.
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Oh yeah? What does a cartoonist in Denmark have to do with the U.S.?
Do you even read other people's posts? I said "No, it's not just about the U.S."


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Yeah right. That explains why al Qaeda has committed terrorist attacks in France too. You know France----that wonderful backer of the U.S.???
Isn't France a member of NATO? Whoops...

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Sorry, your "Blame America First" argument doesn't hold water.
I'm not blaming America. I wish you'd stop lying. I blame U.S. foreign policy and the U.S. government for funding tyrants like Saddam and criminals like Bin Laden. Do you deny that the U.S. government funded both of them?


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And so---you say Bush has "hyped" it, eh?
Yes. The Neocons have hyped it. The situation wouldn't exist if the U.S. would declare neutrality and stay out of the affairs of other countries.

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So, you don't think the threat of terrorism is serious?
I think terrorism is real - but it is happening for specific reasons. The U.S. is causing much of it. And the way to deal with terrorists is not to invade nation states and waste American lives and trillions of dollars. We should develop a truly international police force, separate from the U.N. to deal with terrorist/criminal types.

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I'll keep that in mind next time there's an attack and you explode into your "Blame Bush" tirade.
So we are still under threat of another terrorist attack after all Bush has allegedly "done." When does this end? Because you're not going to wipe out every Muslim. When does it end JP5? Is this an eternal war? If so, you need to go enlist and go over there and fight for what you believe in.
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Do you even read other people's posts? I said "No, it's not just about the U.S."
But then you followed with....or anybody who backs the U.S. You STILL blame the U.S.




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Isn't France a member of NATO? Whoops...
Oh, so now you're moving the goalsposts. So now you're adding the U.S.; anybody who supports the U.S. or any organization which includes the U.S., huh? So, we're back to square one: you blame the U.S.



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I'm not blaming America. I wish you'd stop lying. I blame U.S. foreign policy and the U.S. government for funding tyrants like Saddam and criminals like Bin Laden. Do you deny that the U.S. government funded both of them?
Yes, I do. We did NOT fund bin Laden. We funded Afghanistan against the Soviet Union...way back in the 80's before al Qaeda was even formally formed. The fact that he might have benefitted from that in some way, was not something we could have forseen. Had we been able to do so---I doubt very seriously that Democrat Congressman Charlie Wilson would have funded the shoulder-fired missiles and taught them how to bring down Soviet helicopters.


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Yes. The Neocons have hyped it. The situation wouldn't exist if the U.S. would declare neutrality and stay out of the affairs of other countries.
Okay. Let's see what would happen then. I recall very clearly the Dems/liberals and the rest of the world severely condemned Pres. Bush for not getting involved in the Middle East right away when he took office. So, are you saying you were different.....that you supported his actions?



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I think terrorism is real - but it is happening for specific reasons. The U.S. is causing much of it. And the way to deal with terrorists is not to invade nation states and waste American lives and trillions of dollars. We should develop a truly international police force, separate from the U.N. to deal with terrorist/criminal types.
And guess who would be expected to furnish the largest amounts of troops? That would be the U.S. So, we'd still be involved. You simply want some international group to direct our military instead of the Pres. of the U.S.


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So we are still under threat of another terrorist attack after all Bush has allegedly "done." When does this end? Because you're not going to wipe out every Muslim. When does it end JP5? Is this an eternal war? If so, you need to go enlist and go over there and fight for what you believe in.
So, we do what? We sit back and do nothing and wait for the next attack? We go back off the offensive like before 9/11? We KNOW their intentions; they've made it very clear. The formally declared war on us in about 1995 and we paid no attention. One of the final conclusions in the 9/11 Commission was that "they were at war with us; but we weren't at war with them." And also that "we failed to connect the dots." We cannot sit back, not be involved and accomplish either of those previous failures.
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