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Old 05-07-2008, 10:18 AM
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Sure, the iranian regime has proven themselves extremely rational after all, what with denying the holocaust ever happened, declaring their intention to wipe Israel off the map, supporting hezbollah and hamas who target Americans for murder and call for the destruction of the USA...

Clearly, they are far too reasonable to arm another enemy of the USA and the world.
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Of course it tends to backfire. When does that stop anyone?

They keep finding Iranian weapons in Iraq, so it appears they are helping someone. Is it Al Qaeda? I certainly don't know. Who do they detest more, Sunni extemists or American troops right next door? I don't know that either!
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Clearly, they are far too reasonable to arm another enemy of the USA and the world.
You want to believe that they are; so, as soon as somebody says that they are, you believe it, because it's what you want to believe.

Reason takes a back seat in a "crusade."
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Iran supporting Shiite militias makes sense. Iran supporting Sunni extremists who think Shiites are devil spawn only makes sense in a myopic "enemy of my enemy" kind of way.
Iran has been known to do dumb things... but point taken.
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I don't see why anyone would be surprised by this.
The US military Im sure isnt.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6546555.stm
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You want to believe that they are; so, as soon as somebody says that they are, you believe it, because it's what you want to believe.
LOL. I would much prefer iran and the rest of the muslims just abandoned terrorism, but it clearly is NEVER going to happen. But, it is you with a bias who just assumes new information/evidence of iran's evil is false simply because you don't want to believe it.
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But, it is you with a bias who just assumes new information/evidence of iran's evil is false simply because you don't want to believe it.
You may note that I haven't assumed anything.


The Murdoch vessel chose not to publish a quote of the allegation of assistance from this guy, and instead put in a paraphrase, that was to your liking.
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What you have is an AQ guy claiming, with no evidence, that Iran is supporting them.

Could it be true? Yes.

Is there any evidence it's true? No.

Does the AQ guy in question have a huge incentive to lie about such a thing? Yes.

By any objective measure, skepticism is called for.
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Its just one of many pieces of evidence. The strongest evidence is the entire pattern, of which this fits perfectly. As for AQ being highly motivated to get iran in trouble with the USA, I find it absurd. I see no evidence iran has any big problems with AQ and in fact there is plenty more evidence of their involvement with them, though it is not conclusive, yet.

Be skeptical all you want. iran is escalating their jihad and will get caught red handed soon and I am confident W isn't going to believe you appeasers anyway and will end their evil regardless.
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Its just one of many pieces of evidence.
Give us the others.
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