Thread: MYTH: Barack Obama Can Direct The State Of Hawaii To Release His Long Form Birth Cert

The whole "birther" thing is just insane. They claim to have proof that Obama isn't born and what they have is just ideas of things. Here is a few clues that might help some out there on this. You can't tell if something is photoshopped unless it is done really poorly which from these COLB that we have seen you can't tell as there are a number of variables that are just not able of being removed completely like for example scanner issues, issues when compiling the image over to a format for the web using Adobe Photoshop or any number of image programs.

Also you have the most obvious of issues the number of people that would be involved in a cover up this size. As there are people who have just as much access to information as the President of the United States does there are also some that have even more access that he does to information. Birthers seem to forget the whole thing of people being able to keep secrets which just a slight hint, they aren't. I think Benjamin Franklin said it best in order for three people to keep a secret two of them need to be dead.

Originally Posted by The Mello Guy

No, you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it's only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she said. [Honolulu Star Bulletin, 6/6/09]

http://www.starbulletin.com/columnis...okua_line.html

Obama could provide his to the public. He was born before 2001.

He doesnt need the state of Hawaii. He could do it himself, unless he doesnt have it...

Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable

Obama could provide his to the public. He was born before 2001.

He doesnt need the state of Hawaii. He could do it himself, unless he doesnt have it...

And he did- in 2011. After requesting a special exemption from the State of Hawaii.

And Hawaii confirmed it- again and again. By my count the State of Hawaii has confirmed that Barack Obama was born there, and his birth certificates are authentic 3 times now- by three different officials.

Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable

Obama could provide his to the public. He was born before 2001.

He doesnt need the state of Hawaii. He could do it himself, unless he doesnt have it...

Which is entirely possible. I'm 30 years old and I lost mine five years ago during a move. Haven't had need of it so I haven't pursued a replacement or copy.

Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable

Obama could provide his to the public. He was born before 2001.

He doesnt need the state of Hawaii. He could do it himself, unless he doesnt have it...

Oh, he has one all right. He mentioned it in his book.

Though, why he would have to send back to Hawaii to get another one when he already had that one just raises more questions.

Originally Posted by The Mello Guy

what obama provided is all he has access to.

And the President or the Governor of Hawaii are powerless to do anything else. Right. They provide the Certification to cut costs, not because their feet are nailed to the floor.

Originally Posted by keymanjim

Oh, he has one all right. He mentioned it in his book.

Though, why he would have to send back to Hawaii to get another one when he already had that one just raises more questions.

Ah Birther revisionist history. Did you know that he also mentioned in his book that he was born in Hawaii?

In his book he mentioned coming across a copy of his birth certificate- he never claimed that he has it. And was it an official copy? Who knows.

But Barack Obama- being the bright individual he is- in 2007 requested an official State of Hawaii issued birth certificate- like anyone born in Hawaii would request- got it, and in 2008 was the first Presidential candidate in history to show voters his birth certificate.

Now in 2012, Mitt Romney has followed in his tradition by requesting a brand new copy of his BC from Michigan, releasing his similar Birth certificate. Oddly that doesn't seem to raise any questions for anyone

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ima...ification1.jpg

http://factcheck.org/Images/image/bi...tificate_2.jpg

Whenever I have needed a certified copy of a birth certificate, I dealt with the COUNTY of birth. The state wasn't involved at all. HI is all paperless, huh? BS

Are you people aware of the fact ovomit's lawyer admitted in court his BC is a fraudulent document?