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Thread: Waterboarding Khalid Sheikh Mohammed DID NOT LEAD TO THE CAPTURE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tuck View Post
    Senate Intel Chair: Torture Did Not Lead To Bin Laden In Any Way

    More and more evidence suggests a key piece of intelligence -- the first link in the chain of information that led U.S. intelligence officials to Osama bin Laden -- wasn't tortured out of its source. And, indeed, that torture actually failed to produce it.

    "To the best of our knowledge, based on a look, none of it came as a result of harsh interrogation practices," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee in a wide-ranging press conference.

    Moreover, Feinstein added, nothing about the sequence of events that culminated in Sunday's raid vindicates the Bush-era techniques, nor their use of black sites -- secret prisons, operated by the CIA.

    "Absolutely not, I do not," Feinstein said. "I happen to know a good deal about how those interrogations were conducted, and in my view nothing justifies the kind of procedures that were used."

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    It is good to see the truth finally come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dixon76710 View Post
    Actually its a Federal crime to lie to Congress. Haul Feinstein before Congress, put her under oath and maybe we could get the truth out of even her.
    Feinstein does not see all the intelligence that Panetta sees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    You already asked me that question on another thread and I answered you.

    Obama's speech was filled with Obama describing himself as the key player or driver in this event when in fact he was little more than a passenger.

    "And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

    Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

    Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
    It is good to see the truth finally come out.
    Farce-stein was NOT Senate Intell Chair WHEN IT HAPPENED. She's just serving the Kool-aid , now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    Documents released years ago concerning the "enhanced interrogation" techniques (known by the rest of the world as torture) were used on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in 2003 including waterboarding KSM 183 times in one month. If waterboarding was SO effective, why couldn't they get the name of these couriers then?

    News reports state that detainee interrogations during 2007 produced the name of the courier that US intelligence tracked to find Osama bin Laden's hideout in the Suburbs of Pakistan. The information is still vague but there is ZERO evidence currently that waterboarding KSM had anything to do with it.

    Sorry, righties. No sale.
    The head of the CIA disagrees with your assertion.
    NBC, msnbc.com and news services
    updated 5/3/2011 8:51:07 PM ET 2011-05-04T00:51:07

    WASHINGTON — Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.
    "Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
    It is good to see the truth finally come out.
    Which "truth" is that??

    I'll trust the current head of the CIA with knowledge of the truth...over a California politician

    CIA Director Leon Panetta stomped on the White House’s political script when he told Tuesday night’s broadcast of NBC Nightly News that the waterboarding of jihadi detainees contributed information that led to the location and killing of Osama bin Laden.

    “We had multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to this situation… clearly some of it came from detainees [and] they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of those detainees,” he told NBC anchor Brian Williams.

    When asked by Williams if water-boarding was part of the “enhanced interrogation techniques,” Panetta simply said “that’s correct.”
    http://www.ksbw.com/r/27766515/detail.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    Feinstein does not see all the intelligence that Panetta sees.
    Leaving her free to make up the rest to fit her agenda.
    Last edited by dixon76710; May 04 2011 at 05:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable View Post
    To put things in simple terms for any "progressives" reading along, here's what the EITs revealed after 3,000 American civilians were slaughtered in cold blood by Al Qaeda:

    • FACT: EITs produced 3,000 of the 6,000 critical counter-terror intelligence reports only after normal techniques had proven fruitless;

    • FACT: EITs used on Zubaydah revealed KSM's identity as a mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks;

    • FACT: KSM ratted out a number of mass-murderers including Hambali;

    • FACT: Hambali's brother ratted out a cell bent on "9/11 Wave 2" on the West Coast;

    • FACT: Zubaydah also revealed Padilla and his plan to detonate a simplistic dirty bomb in Washington, DC;

    I posted another link about it, yesterday.
    FACT: Saddam had WMD. Oh, wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPSartre View Post
    The head of the CIA disagrees with your assertion.
    I wonder if Panetta is being waterboarded somewhere in the White House even as we speak in an effort to make him to issue a retraction to that statement?
    Last edited by Mac-7; May 04 2011 at 05:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDtv View Post
    bush was a loser who did not accomplish anything and failed to get osama. He had chance and the loser that he was choked at the opportunity. Even his secretary of state said that blew an opportunity on cnn. It was a black man that save the racist conservatives ass with the help of navy seals and the cia. conservatives are racist chokers that don't accomplish anything.
    That's quite the cross that you carry around. Does that thing give you back pains?
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