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Old 04-03-2007, 03:46 PM
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Much of the rest of your post is just unscholarly and downright inaccurate.
Would you be so kind as to point out where my post is inaccurate? I did you the courtesy of reading your entire charter. At least do me the courtesy of providing some specifics.
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Much of the rest of your post is just unscholarly and downright inaccurate.
Would you be so kind as to point out where my post is inaccurate? I did you the courtesy of reading your entire charter. At least do me the courtesy of providing some specifics.
Wilco, when and as I have time. It will take me a while to type in the disection and I don't have that time right now. It is nearing my bed time.

While it appears you did read most of the Charter, you also distorted or chose to mischaracterize those portions you wished to attempt to discredit. That is not "courteous."
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It's a nice try but there are too many obstacles in present day America. I admire your enthusiasm. However, there are some principles in your document that I wouldn't follow anyway. For one, I've never believed that all men are created equal. Only a communist could believe such nonsense that at any point in time all people are equal. Such talk has only lead to problems and confusion.

Also the idea of protecting christians everywhere is just stupid. The idea is to have a country of the religion you wish to protect so it logically makes sense. Our government cannot go around chasing other countrys' citizens because they're christian. That would also lead to countries asking us to do things we have no business getting involved in. Pure nonsense.
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:27 AM
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I support your efforts to establish a Bible Party.
I think that people who think the way you do have a moral obligation to organize and try to influence the governmental system.
I think the Republican Party would do well to be rid of your influence.
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:47 AM
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Sorry, you are correct. If you are not a Christian or Jew, then this party would not be for you.
Thanks. That saves time.

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It doesn't seem that you read the Charter. It specifies the exact source of the values..
Must've missed it. Doesn't help that I use a puny window... Oh well... Raytri copied n' pasted it, so I see it now.
However the "source" of the values is irrelevant to me. It's the values and more importantly the policies they lead to that are important. And the reason I will never vote for your party.

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It isn't exclusive or elitist.
Hee hee hee. Again, sorry.
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This party is not for lazy people.
So it is not for the American voter. Sorry. You must catch my interest before I will look deeper into your party. So far you've only pushed me away, as you will most voters, with that attitude.


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It isn't exclusive or elitist. Anyone can be a Christian if they choose to acknowledge their sins, accept Christ Jesus as their redeemer, and repent. That is the purpose of Christianity..
Sounds exclusive to me. I must be a Christian to belong to your party. By definition, that makes your party exclusive. It's like if I formed a party that requires you to become a Freemason to belong and then claiming it is inclusive.

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Again, sorry. This party is not for lazy people. It will require members to work at maintaining their knowledge and integrity.
Good luck with that.

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I support your efforts to establish a Bible Party.
I think that people who think the way you do have a moral obligation to organize and try to influence the governmental system.
I think the Republican Party would do well to be rid of your influence.
I agree with that!
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There is an historical consistency at play.
Christianity started out as a Roman mystery cult and many of its central teachings today are proudly called mysteries.
are you saying there were no Christians prior to the Roman Empire? do you agree with the analysis that it is a cult? your other post on this thread insinuates you do .

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are you saying there were no Christians prior to the Roman Empire?
Jesus was born about 350 years prior to Rome's disintegration and about 650 years into its lifespan.
There was no Christianity prior to Rome's political existence.
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Christianity is no longer a mystery cult though it retains several vestigial trappings of its early days as one.
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are you saying there were no Christians prior to the Roman Empire?
Huh? Was this question a mistake?
It was a long time ago... but I seem to remember in the gospels that Romans were in charge during the story of Jesus and occupied Israel at the time... Since Christianity did not actually exist until after Jesus' death and alleged resurrection... how is it even possible for it to be any other way? Of course the Roman Empire existed before Christianity.
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Matthew 27:62-66, “The next day, which followed the preparation day, the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered before Pilate and said, "Sir, we remember that while this deceiver was still alive, He said, 'After three days I will rise again. Therefore give orders that the tomb be made secure until the third day. Otherwise, His disciples may come, steal Him, and tell the people, 'He has been raised from the dead.' Then the last deception will be worse than the first."

"You have a guard [of soldiers]," Pilate told them. "Go and make it as secure as you know how." Then they went and made the tomb secure by sealing the stone and setting the guard.”

Matthew 28, “After the Sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to view the tomb. Suddenly there was a violent earthquake, because an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and approached [the tomb]. He rolled back the stone and was sitting on it. His appearance was like lightning, and his robe was as white as snow. The guards were so shaken from fear of him that they became like dead men.

But the angel told the women, "Don't be afraid, because I know you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. He is not here! For He has been resurrected, just as He said. Come and see the place where He lay. Then go quickly and tell His disciples, 'He has been raised from the dead. In fact, He is going ahead of you to Galilee; you will see Him there.' Listen, I have told you."

So, departing quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, they ran to tell His disciples the news. Just then Jesus met them and said, "Good morning!" They came up, took hold of His feet, and worshiped Him. Then Jesus told them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brothers to leave for Galilee, and they will see Me there."

As they were on their way, some of the guard came into the city and reported to the chief priests everything that had happened. After the priests had assembled with the elders and agreed on a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money and told them, "Say this, 'His disciples came during the night and stole Him while we were sleeping.' If this reaches the governor's ears, we will deal with [d] him and keep you out of trouble." So they took the money and did as they were instructed. And this story has been spread among Jewish people to this day.

The 11 disciples traveled to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had directed them. When they saw Him, they worshiped, but some doubted. Then Jesus came near and said to them, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

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The first page quotes Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving proclamation, which is interesting because it is one of the few times Washington invoked God in any official matter, and he never invoked Jesus. There is much to suggest that Washington was a deist, which would presumably drive your party's founders bonkers.
Read some more about George Washington.

Try some of the information at the Wallbuilders web site here:

http://www.wallbuilders.com/
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