Thread: Democratic or Republican?

which are you and why?

For many years i have considered myself republican mainly because i supported Barry Goldwater in the '64 election and if you listen to Barry Goldwater talk about where the party is going to go he is exactly right, but since his passing i have found myself more and more at odds with the people who get up on stage and purport to be Republicans and get up and just spew whatever they think the masses want to hear no matter what they believe

Yet i cannot and will not support Obama my main concern is he has gone to the LGBT and asked for there vote and in '08 he got it in large numbers and yet the democrats controlled the House of Representitives and the Senate and when Obama was asked about the democrats submitting a bill on legalizing gay marriage his answer was marriage is between a man and a woman, for me he has betrayed those people he voted for.

So in essence im an independant

Are you referring to registration or do you mean which party most closely conforms to my beliefs?

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

which are you and why?

I'm still. reg as a Republican, voted that way up to Dole in 96, after that I understand a lot more, college/univ and the main issue to me are fiscal, so I vote Dem exclusively since they are generally for tax increases. Evrytime we cut taxes in a major sense, the debt, the economy goes to crap; raise them and it repairs.

Originally Posted by russ2102

For many years i have considered myself republican mainly because i supported Barry Goldwater in the '64 election and if you listen to Barry Goldwater talk about where the party is going to go he is exactly right, but since his passing i have found myself more and more at odds with the people who get up on stage and purport to be Republicans and get up and just spew whatever they think the masses want to hear no matter what they believe

Yet i cannot and will not support Obama my main concern is he has gone to the LGBT and asked for there vote and in '08 he got it in large numbers and yet the democrats controlled the House of Representitives and the Senate and when Obama was asked about the democrats submitting a bill on legalizing gay marriage his answer was marriage is between a man and a woman, for me he has betrayed those people he voted for.

So in essence im an independant

He signed the bill to quash DADT didn't he? Isn't that a move toward gay marriage? I dunno, what do you expect? Change takes forever in this country, we are so regressive.

Originally Posted by Political Ed

He signed the bill to quash DADT didn't he? Isn't that a move toward gay marriage? I dunno, what do you expect? Change takes forever in this country, we are so regressive.

DADT should never have even been signed into law in the first place i campaigned against it and so do many ohter including Barry Goldwater. DADT is completely different to gay marriage just because you can now serve as an openly gay man or woman doesnt mean that the armed forces will consider you partner as anything. My cousin is gay and when he was killed in Iraq his partner wasnt told because they didnt (and still dont) consider them to be a couple he found out through my aunt.

Originally Posted by russ2102

DADT should never have even been signed into law in the first place i campaigned against it and so do many ohter including Barry Goldwater. DADT is completely different to gay marriage just because you can now serve as an openly gay man or woman doesnt mean that the armed forces will consider you partner as anything. My cousin is gay and when he was killed in Iraq his partner wasnt told because they didnt (and still dont) consider them to be a couple he found out through my aunt.

OK, I'm sympathetic to your cause, but do you really think w/o DADT that we would be here now? I mean, this regressive nation has to take centuries to finally get smoking out of some public places and even then, it really isn't enforced. It took 80 years to write the Emancipation Proclamation and even then, let's be real, blacks still didn't have real freedom for another 100 years.

DADT was a necessary evil and I think it's disingenuous for gays to think Clinton was bad for doing it.

The premise of this thread seems to be a false dichotomy.

I'm a lifelong republican because I am against slavery. Republicans got rid of slavery, and democrats want to bring it back in the form of income taxes. I understand that the economy is not a zero sum game. You can lower taxes and have a higher revenues. Look up the Laugher curve. It should be a free country, and you shouldn't have to pay any taxes. That is my belief. This country did fine before we had an income tax.

Democratic or Republican? which are you and why?

Neither, because they are both corrupt, bought and paid for by corporate interests.

Except for Ron Paul.

I'm an independent libertarian, but would vote Republican for the first time ever if Ron Paul ran on their presidential ticket. He won't, because they are corrupt and won't nominate an honest man or woman, only corporate stooges.