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    which are you and why?
    "how do you expect your subjects to follow if the king does not lead"

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    For many years i have considered myself republican mainly because i supported Barry Goldwater in the '64 election and if you listen to Barry Goldwater talk about where the party is going to go he is exactly right, but since his passing i have found myself more and more at odds with the people who get up on stage and purport to be Republicans and get up and just spew whatever they think the masses want to hear no matter what they believe

    Yet i cannot and will not support Obama my main concern is he has gone to the LGBT and asked for there vote and in '08 he got it in large numbers and yet the democrats controlled the House of Representitives and the Senate and when Obama was asked about the democrats submitting a bill on legalizing gay marriage his answer was marriage is between a man and a woman, for me he has betrayed those people he voted for.

    So in essence im an independant

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    Are you referring to registration or do you mean which party most closely conforms to my beliefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by russ2102 View Post
    For many years i have considered myself republican mainly because i supported Barry Goldwater in the '64 election and if you listen to Barry Goldwater talk about where the party is going to go he is exactly right, but since his passing i have found myself more and more at odds with the people who get up on stage and purport to be Republicans and get up and just spew whatever they think the masses want to hear no matter what they believe

    Yet i cannot and will not support Obama my main concern is he has gone to the LGBT and asked for there vote and in '08 he got it in large numbers and yet the democrats controlled the House of Representitives and the Senate and when Obama was asked about the democrats submitting a bill on legalizing gay marriage his answer was marriage is between a man and a woman, for me he has betrayed those people he voted for.

    So in essence im an independant
    He signed the bill to quash DADT didn't he? Isn't that a move toward gay marriage? I dunno, what do you expect? Change takes forever in this country, we are so regressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Ed View Post
    He signed the bill to quash DADT didn't he? Isn't that a move toward gay marriage? I dunno, what do you expect? Change takes forever in this country, we are so regressive.
    DADT should never have even been signed into law in the first place i campaigned against it and so do many ohter including Barry Goldwater. DADT is completely different to gay marriage just because you can now serve as an openly gay man or woman doesnt mean that the armed forces will consider you partner as anything. My cousin is gay and when he was killed in Iraq his partner wasnt told because they didnt (and still dont) consider them to be a couple he found out through my aunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russ2102 View Post
    DADT should never have even been signed into law in the first place i campaigned against it and so do many ohter including Barry Goldwater. DADT is completely different to gay marriage just because you can now serve as an openly gay man or woman doesnt mean that the armed forces will consider you partner as anything. My cousin is gay and when he was killed in Iraq his partner wasnt told because they didnt (and still dont) consider them to be a couple he found out through my aunt.
    OK, I'm sympathetic to your cause, but do you really think w/o DADT that we would be here now? I mean, this regressive nation has to take centuries to finally get smoking out of some public places and even then, it really isn't enforced. It took 80 years to write the Emancipation Proclamation and even then, let's be real, blacks still didn't have real freedom for another 100 years.

    DADT was a necessary evil and I think it's disingenuous for gays to think Clinton was bad for doing it.

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    The premise of this thread seems to be a false dichotomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko View Post
    which are you and why?
    I'm still. reg as a Republican, voted that way up to Dole in 96, after that I understand a lot more, college/univ and the main issue to me are fiscal, so I vote Dem exclusively since they are generally for tax increases. Evrytime we cut taxes in a major sense, the debt, the economy goes to crap; raise them and it repairs.

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    I don't think I am Repub or Dem.
    Feels so nice and hopeless when I'm rotting in your arms (In my head;In my head)
    I want to be that bullet that goes ripping through your skull (In my head;In my head)

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    I consider myself an independent conservative, but even as fed up as I've been with the Republican party, I'll probably end up registering as a Republican at some point.

    Reasons why?

    I believe in individual liberty. Property rights. Personal responsibility. THE FREEDOM TO FAIL and not be held up by some ridiculous safety net. Without failure, success is meaningless. You cannot grow if you cannot overcome challenges and learn to solve problems on your own. This is why many big government clingers never grow up. They are denied the challenges that would allow them to mature into adults.

    I believe in honesty, integrity, honor, chivalry, and humility. I believe in holding myself to the highest standard of conduct possible, and I believe in acknowledging my mistakes and admitting when I am wrong. I believe in respecting others and being generous not only with my money but with my actions. I believe in selflessly brightening other people's day. Sometimes I'll pay for the car behind me in the drive-thru at Starbucks.

    I believe everyone is a unique person and as such they cannot and should not be categorized into some arbitrary identity group. I believe what is in someone's heart is much more important than what they look like or where they come from.

    I believe in life. I believe in justice. And I believe in leaving this world a better place than I found it.
    In the 1800s, Democrats used black people to farm cotton. Today, they use them to farm votes. Notice how Democrats love using black people for farming.

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