Thread: Welfare

I hear it time and time again how welfare is bad and needs to be reformed and frankly I agree that welfare needs to be reformed. But how exactly would you do it?

Originally Posted by bd428

I hear it time and time again how welfare is bad and needs to be reformed and frankly I agree that welfare needs to be reformed. But how exactly would you do it?

You are asking Americans to think .
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but apparently if i was from England or anywhere else i would be able to come up with something that wasn’t bull (*)(*)(*)(*)

because (*)(*)(*)(*) Americans i guess I don’t like them

Originally Posted by stig42

but apparently if i was from England or anywhere else i would be able to come up with something that wasn’t bull (*)(*)(*)(*)

because (*)(*)(*)(*) Americans i guess I don’t like them

See .Look , there goes one .
Speeding off after some amazing Name Calling that clearly puts a new dimension on Welfare .

It needs to give the most responsibility to the American people as possible. Take that where you will.

I would do this if someone is disabled set a standard of living wage then expect them to work if they can up to 20 hours a week deducting that amount with a 4% adjustment under that to the worker. Say you have a man in a wheelchair and he works as a customer service rep and earns $800 after taxes in a month that is $10 an hour and you set the living wage at $1200 he gets. That would be under my formulae $768 so make up the difference in a check or $432.

This would be to encourage the disabled to work they would make a little more money and since they work part-time food stamps and other programs would be far less used saving money in those areas.

If someone really couldn't work they would get the whole $1200.

I will note those that can work and are not limited should be expected to work I would do the same thing but require they take any job offered or lose the money and benefits. I all they can do is part-time fine its honest work and all but if they get offered enough hours to no qualify for this benefit and refuse or get fired due to clearly poor performance or quite they get cut off.

This way those most in need get help and bums won't. Once could include an amount of job training as work to be fair if laid off and they are in school or something this is just the framework for an employment encouraging form of welfare.

Originally Posted by bd428

I hear it time and time again how welfare is bad and needs to be reformed and frankly I agree that welfare needs to be reformed. But how exactly would you do it?

One of the biggest welfare programs every State in the USA has is the public education welfare system. It is a huge burden and failure and cost taxpayers billions in each state. When you look at the cost of education, you will see it cost nothing to teach someone something. But yet the loser educators continue to manipulate the masses with their high cost and bogus needs. For what, all that money does nothing but pay for some adults who have never worked in a real job with real hours, and with real accountability. Every State has there educators who make the 6figure income and contribute nothing to any improvements in the system. They have their own subculture of courts, police and policies, and the taxpayer pays for this high price baby sitting program. Now each of the US states are in debt and have sold bonds to pay for their failing public education welfare system.

The only way for America to rise up from number 30 or 40 of industrilized countries is to privatize the public school welfare system, and make people work for their money like the public schools. After all, that is where the elite of the USA send their kids for a real education.

How is teaching not a real job with real hours? not saying abuse doesn’t happen or that there’s no greed or incompetence among teachers but spending 6 hours a day explaining things to people then spending hours going over their work to see if they understand it sounds like a real job to me (having to deal with students is work I remember being a Scholl kid I and others were (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s a lot)

We need a safety net but it needs to be minimal. We give out to much in food stamps...so much that budgeting is not needed. Its funny...but its when you are off the system is when you learn how to budget.

The government should call on the help of churches and private charity organizations. It seems that people are less apt to be "dependent" when their help comes from private sources.

Medical should be covered by clinics that accept on payscale. Free medical care----will demotivate people from looking for better jobs or jobs at all. Its just human nature---because free medical care is a benefit treasured. (as Obama knows by the way...once you get it, ya can't go back)

Housing and daycare are the two basic areas that will take a persons entire check for the month. Daycare should be the governments main effort. Drop the housing benefits and let the free market work or charities help.

That is my opinion.

The best fix would simply be to take it completely out of the federal government's hands and leave it to the states. No federal rules, regulation, standards or subsidies. A state would be free to be as lavish or as stingy as it chooses.

After a few years, we would have a large variety of policies and would have a great opportunity to see which policies work and which ones don't.