Influence is not control.

If the masses have a problem with the inflence, they need to elect politicians hostile to that inflence. The masses have the final say.

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Politicians and high ranking individuals in Corporations are going back and forth all the time changing laws to best suit these corporations. The corporate controlled media which is watched by the masses very seldom publish these stories or laws that benefit the corporations. The masses may have the final say but the masses have no idea what's going on.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.

If the masses have a problem with this, they need to elect different politicians.

Why do you keep absolving the masses of their responsibility like that? They are not helpless vicitims in this process. In fact, they ultimately have all the power.


...in your opinion. Maybe the masses disagree.

This is a perfect example of liberal elitism...only you and people like you "really" know whats going on eh?

Democracy is functioning as it was intended. IF the masses want to, they can change things. The fact that they are not making decisions you are happy with does not mean they dont have control.

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But the masses have no idea it's going on.
Again, they don't know what is really happening. Even people interested in politics don't know half the details.
Well of course the masses will disagree. They will defend themselves because they would feel they are being labeled ignorant or stupid.
There's a lot of what I don't know going on. No one has to agree with me politically. I just want the information to get out to as many of the people as possible.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.

Rule by the "general will" principle is the philosophical basis of totalitarianism, as put forth by Rousseau. Plato recognized that democracy would lead to dictatorship. We have witnessed it happen in Weimar Germany, and with the election of Hitler. If people think that the masses are the final say in anything, than they masses can do whatever they want. This is tyranny of the majority. Hitler, representing the general will of the German people, the masses, did unspeakable things to other people blatantly disregarding their rights as human beings. Liberals favor this kind of dictatorship, conservatives favor a small government that protects people's liberty.

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I disagree that the masses have no idea what is going on. They've been told by people like you countless times...if they care about it, they can research it just like you did.


Start a website. Post on forms. Write to newspapers. You have recourse.

But your view isn't more important than anyone else's. And you are not entitled to free corporate airtime. You'll have to do it the hard way. If your view has merit, you will succeed eventually.



Um...if it is so inevitable, why have we not witnessed it anywhere else?

How many democracies exist right now? How many of them have gone the way of Hitler? That answer defeats your argument.


If the masses have a voice, it is not tyranny. Even if they are overruled. Observe:

Definitions 4 and 5 are subjective.

Democracies do not fit definitions 1 and 2, since power is not concentrated in an absolute source, and is not unrestrained.

Give me an example of a government that is not tyrannical by your definition.



Um...if Hitler represented the general will of the masses, explain why he had to use violence and coercion to get into power. Why could he not be elected freely?


Are you saying conservatives oppose democracy? That they don't believe that leaders should be elected?

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they cant elect anyone different in the USA - the US political system is not democratic - Its an Plutocratic Oligarchy at best.

Almost All the politicians have the same streamlined opinions that never challenge this concentration of power.

And remember,

Adolf Hitler was a "sadistic-Savior"

AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM - DONT WE?

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Please post your evidence that the American system does not permit someone to be elected based on a particular ideology they hold.


Because the American People allow it. But there is nothing in our system that would prevent them from changing this any time they felt like it.


He was defeated by a superior culture.

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Yes, the Russians were certainly a superior culture

How much money does someone need in order to be elected as Governor of a state or into Congress?

All sorts of barriers are placed to prevent the wealth concentration centres from being challenged or dismantled.

You seem to think that its jsut enough to carry around a constitution and bill of rights in your pocket and everything will be OKAY and a free democracy will flourish.

Well the USA doesnt even have a free market system let alone a free democracy - ITS ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS!

DO you wish to discuss the existence of the private corporattion and its historical context? Why the forefathers of the US system warned against private corporations being allowed to exist forever and have the same rights as citizens?

Look it up - youre living in a technical dream world

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I think you meant the Soviets. They would have been helpless without American supplies.

I do agree they were superior to the Nazis. You do know the Soviet Union no longer exists now, right?

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