The USA is an OLIGARCHY, not a democracy - Page 3

submarinepainter · #21 (**permalink**) 05-07-2008, 05:33 PM

your conversation has become tiresome!

SpankyTheWhale · #22 (**permalink**) 05-07-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

But this is my point - In the USA, as is the case in all countries, the interests of a handful of concentrated interest groups dominate the bulk of the population because they effectively control Congress by stealth veto.

The USA is a prime example of this subversion of the public from the democratic process

Interest groups represent the interests of the people. Sometimes the people themselves aren't even aware of the interest, but the impact certain "interests" have on their lives is palpable. "Stealth veto" is a preemptive check of the Congress by the people. There are so many interest groups, it could hardly be fair to say that it is just a handful of people with power.

Foolosophy · #23 (**permalink**) 05-07-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SpankyTheWhale

Interest groups represent the interests of the people. Sometimes the people themselves aren't even aware of the interest, but the impact certain "interests" have on their lives is palpable. "Stealth veto" is a preemptive check of the Congress by the people. There are so many interest groups, it could hardly be fair to say that it is just a handful of people with power.

You just posted a totally INCORRECT statement concerning interest groups

Who do you work for?

Makedde · #24 (**permalink**) 05-07-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

You just posted a totally INCORRECT statement concerning interest groups

Tell us the correct statement, then.

Foolosophy · #25 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

Tell us the correct statement, then.

I dont preach from the mound

I merely post questions and reference points that act as intellectual locii which can catapult potentially interesting debate into the etheral mist.

People must make up their own minds as to what they believe in and most importantly DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH and conjecturing.

My primary purpose in this forum is to expose and castrate fascists

SpankyTheWhale · #26 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

You just posted a totally INCORRECT statement concerning interest groups

Who do you work for?

Name one interest group that doesn't represent the will of the people. In fact, name seven interest groups just for my amusement.

SpankyTheWhale · #27 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

I dont preach from the mound

I merely post questions and reference points that act as intellectual locii which can catapult potentially interesting debate into the etheral mist.

People must make up their own minds as to what they believe in and most importantly DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH and conjecturing.

My primary purpose in this forum is to expose and castrate fascists

Meaning, quite literally, that you've got nothing, and your only intent here is to flamebait and troll.

Makedde · #28 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

I merely post questions and reference points that act as intellectual locii which can catapult potentially interesting debate into the etheral mist.

But no links to back up your claims...?

Foolosophy · #29 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

But no links to back up your claims...?

My references are academic and proper citations that have been peer reviewed

NOT web links which may be accurate, (sometimes they are)

If you want to know what the record of the USA's appaling vetoing behaviour in the UN security council is, you got the official source and documentation

Notice how the people in here have not being able to counter the list of points I outlined? Rather than engage in honest debate, they insult, marginalise and threaten. The toosl of the bully and the wittless.

I will wait for the counter evidence - see what happens! I cant wait forever though - 6 years maximum!

Makedde · #30 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

Notice how the people in here have not being able to counter the list of points I outlined? Rather than engage in honest debate, they insult, marginalise and threaten. The toosl of the bully and the wittless.

I have noticed, yes. I would be interested in hearing answers, not to bash America, but simply to know why they did some things.

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