US citizens the only people claiming USA as number one! - Page 2

BillyBob · #11 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by skooter

i like australia.
i do.
it's in my top 5 definitely.
i'm really sorry australia isn't the best.
but it's not like they're last.
instead of being the best,
they get to be one of the #1 country's best friends..

Best friends?

The two posters at this site who bash the US the most are Australians.

Here's a concept:
As an American, I don't give a flying crap what anybody from other countries thinks about the US.

TheChief · #12 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 05:00 AM

God i love America!

justabubba · #13 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 05:52 AM

i thought about this thread when reading the following editorial (Jay Bookman, Atlanta Constitution). while few on this forum will take the time to read it, Bookman says a lot. we have been a great nation so long that our citizens do not want to hear the unvarnished truth: we have lost much of that greatness ... in large degree because of the leaders who pander to us and refuse to identify the more difficult choices which should be taken instead of the easy ones we have become acclimated to adopting.
i can anticipate the comments of a few who will criticize this and call it unpatriotic, only because anyone would dare voice criticism of the USA and expose our problems for public display. pity the clueless who follow the blind ... especially when they are the ones who will refuse to read such commentary and consider its legitimacy

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We Americans have a high regard for ourselves. We are — or so we tell ourselves — the richest, the most generous, the most powerful, the most peace-loving, the most productive, the most wise and most lovable nation on the face of the earth.
We also love politicians who dare to tell us all those wonderful things about ourselves. Like any people, we want to think well of our country and take pride in it, and we want leaders who take pride in it as well.
But there's a difference between justified pride and illusion. Too many Americans seem to believe that our place in the world has been divinely ordained and thus permanent, when in fact it is the product of past sacrifice and wise choices. It can all be lost if we also lose the capacity to look at ourselves and our problems honestly.
For example, it is no longer true that we are the richest nation in the world. Quite the contrary, in recent years we have become the world's biggest debtor nation. We are financing our prosperity in the manner of an old but declining aristocratic family, living beyond our means year by year by pawning off the assets earned by earlier generations.But our leaders don't dare to tell us that truth, because they know we wouldn't take it well. Even as they acknowledge some minor current difficulties, most of our political and business leaders reassure us that our economy is still sound as a dollar. They don't happen to point out that compared to the euro, the value of that dollar has declined by a third in just the last five years.
Yes, we remain productive, but that too cannot last if our government is too poor to invest sufficiently in our public infrastructure. Our roads, bridges, rail lines and ports are crumbling and insufficient in a modern economy, but we decline to tax ourselves to correct that situation. Our nation's Highway Trust Fund — the main source of infrastructure investment — will be bankrupt by 2009, yet we refuse to increase gasoline taxes to replenish that account.
Officially, we tell ourselves we can't afford it. But meanwhile we ship fortunes to oil producers overseas, where the money is put to such useful and productive purposes as building ski resorts in the Arabian desert.
There are no easy answers to $4 gasoline, but our leaders are nonetheless eager to offer a few. Some choose to bash the oil companies, as if they are at fault for our addiction to their product. Others suggest suspending the federal gasoline tax, which would slightly and temporarily ease our pain at the gas pump but do nothing whatsoever to cure the underlying disease.
President Bush, for his part, suggests drilling in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, yet another seemingly pain-free solution. But we could drain the wildlife refuge of every single drop of oil it might hold and it would not lower the price of gasoline a nickel. Nor would it alter our strategic situation in any meaningful way.
Four hundred years ago, an English writer-philosopher offered great advice to a counselor to King James I. Always tell the king the truth, Sir Francis Bacon wrote in a letter to his friend. Tell the king what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear.
"If you flatter him, you betray him," Bacon warned. "If you conceal the truth of those things from him ... you are as dangerous a traitor to this state as he that riseth in arms against him."
A lot of things have changed since Bacon's time. In this country, We the People are now king, but Bacon's truth still applies. Those advisors and courtiers who flatter us also betray us.
Instead of flattery, we need honesty. We don't need leaders to tell us how great we are, we need leaders willing to tell us that we've gotten ourselves into a bad mess and it's going to take hard work, sacrifice and cooperation to fix it. The alternative is the decline of a great nation.
Or, as a writer-philosopher named Bob Dylan once put it:
"If it keeps on raining, the levee's gonna break;
Some people still sleepin', some people wide awake."

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/o...man/index.html

Lackluster · #14 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

US citizens that have been drenched with propaganda and lies for so long they dont know which way their bums are facing.

I beg to differ because I know exactly which way my bum is facing. Since I live in Oregon, the direction my bum faces is now quite definitely Southeast.

submarinepainter · #15 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 07:04 AM

I bet the United States is #1 in aiding other countries and Charities
http://usinfo.state.gov/scv/Archive/.../10-36789.html

http://www.opinionjournal.com/weeken.../?id=110007728

http://www.articlesbase.com/finance-...rt-135190.html

DanishDynamite · #16 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

....strange that isnt it - you travel all over the world and the most hated nation on the planet is the USA by a mile.

THe people who are shouting to the hilltops the SUPREMECY of the US system are invairably US citizens that have been drenched with propaganda and lies for so long they dont know which way their bums are facing.

Remember - the NAZI's during WW2 also thought that they were the supreme race. I recall adolf hitler not congratulating that American sprinter (Jessie Owens?) after he beat the best Germany could put up against him.

And noone outside Germany could see how the Germans were so supremely superior than everybody else.

STRANGE THAT isnt it folks!

I have worked and lived in the USA - I know exactly what the system is about NOW. Its a pity though - because the USA was a beacon for freedom, fairness and compassion about 40 years ago.

I wonder why it has deteriorated to such an extent? (I think I know at least 1 major reason, do you?)

The US still has the most potent military arsenal. This makes them relevant even now. The fact that their economy has now shrunk to less than that of the sub-group of the EU called the euro-countries doesn't immediately change this.

B L Zeebub · #17 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by justabubba

i thought about this thread when reading the following editorial (Jay Bookman, Atlanta Constitution). while few on this forum will take the time to read it, Bookman says a lot. we have been a great nation so long that our citizens do not want to hear the unvarnished truth: we have lost much of that greatness ... in large degree because of the leaders who pander to us and refuse to identify the more difficult choices which should be taken instead of the easy ones we have become acclimated to adopting.
i can anticipate the comments of a few who will criticize this and call it unpatriotic, only because anyone would dare voice criticism of the USA and expose our problems for public display. pity the clueless who follow the blind ... especially when they are the ones who will refuse to read such commentary and consider its legitimacy

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/o...man/index.html

Thank you for the post

MasTequila · #18 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolosophy

....strange that isnt it - you travel all over the world and the most hated nation on the planet is the USA by a mile.
you say that show me a link with some real statistics

THe people who are shouting to the hilltops the SUPREMECY of the US system are invairably US citizens that have been drenched with propaganda and lies for so long they dont know which way their bums are facing.
I stand in a flat field when I am shouting about our supremecy and my bum is normally facing toward Canada - get your facts straight.

Remember - the NAZI's during WW2 also thought that they were the supreme race. I recall adolf hitler not congratulating that American sprinter (Jessie Owens?) after he beat the best Germany could put up against him.
That is when we first proved our supremecy, then we whipped the Japanese and the Germans to ensure it.

And noone outside Germany could see how the Germans were so supremely superior than everybody else.

STRANGE THAT isnt it folks!

I have worked and lived in the USA - I know exactly what the system is about NOW. Its a pity though - because the USA was a beacon for freedom, fairness and compassion about 40 years ago.
We still our if you exclude Barack Obama's racist church.

I wonder why it has deteriorated to such an extent? (I think I know at least 1 major reason, do you?)

There has been no deterioration, we are still the greatest country in the world. I do notice you don't identify where you are from, why is that?

DanishDynamite · #19 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MasTequila

There has been no deterioration, we are still the greatest country in the world. I do notice you don't identify where you are from, why is that?

You have not been the greatest economic power for quite a few years. But you are still relevant as a major military force.

eleanoraquitaine · #20 (**permalink**) 05-04-2008, 02:22 PM

LOL. I just wish all the people convinced it isn't #1 would instead go where they think is the best, especially the muslims. Even the islamoretards just keep flooding in to contaminate the greatest country in the history of the world with their evil, stupid ideology just like they are doing to Europe and England. Of course they are doing this to attack us, when their numbers are high enough. But, you crazy liberals don't believe that so to you it should be evidence of how totally awesome our country is.

Of course we are the most hated. Being the world superpower, we make the biggest decisions and no decision is going to ever make everyone happy.

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