US citizens the only people claiming USA as number one! - Page 5

skooter · #41 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by justabubba

i thought about this thread when reading the following editorial (Jay Bookman, Atlanta Constitution). while few on this forum will take the time to read it, Bookman says a lot. we have been a great nation so long that our citizens do not want to hear the unvarnished truth: we have lost much of that greatness ... in large degree because of the leaders who pander to us and refuse to identify the more difficult choices which should be taken instead of the easy ones we have become acclimated to adopting.
i can anticipate the comments of a few who will criticize this and call it unpatriotic, only because anyone would dare voice criticism of the USA and expose our problems for public display. pity the clueless who follow the blind ... especially when they are the ones who will refuse to read such commentary and consider its legitimacy

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/o...man/index.html

it's not unpatriotic to say America isn't the best.
it's all in how you say it.

it's obviously hard to disagree with a lot of it.
i'm sure that's why he wrote it.
he should definitely run for president,
or at least congress.
it sounds like we all need him an awful lot.

but most people would judge national 'wealth' to be GDP.
total world GDP: 53,640,000,000,000 (53trillion)
USA GDP: 13,790,000,000,000 (13trillion)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_GDP_(nominal)

the US makes up 5% of the planets population,
but contributes 25% of the planets wealth.
i'm well aware of the argument for why this is bad for the world,
but it's good for America.
and in my book, it qualifys us as the wealthiest nation on earth.
cha ching.

a fact of life is that military might backs up every global decision,
and the US military speaks for itself.

as for our leaders needing to stop lying and tell us we have real problems?
every single person who has ever run for anything has said that.
if you don't tell people 'the system is broken' and 'i alone can fix it',
they will have no real reason to vote for you.

but on any scale a logical person uses to determine greatness,
the US is on top.
but the politically correct thing to do is argue that we aren't the best, and all nations are equal.
so some people do that.

so i agree with some of it,
but he doesn't get a lot of credit for saying the same things everyone else has already said.

Foolosophy · #42 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skooter

:the US makes up 5% of the planets population,
but contributes 25% of the planets wealth.

It also depends on how you define wealth.

The USA for example also consumes about 30% of the worlds resources and yet makes up only 5% of the worlds population.

The USA also produces about 33% of the greenhouse gases and other pollutants.

THe USA also accounts for about a third of the world's waste.

Yes it certainly depends on how ONE defines wealth. Surely its not via the stock market or via these economic rationalists who ignore the destruction of the environment and ecological and human costs for corporate growth etc.

Corporations for example like to shift all the damage they do to another category called "EXTERNALITIES" - in other words the damge a corporation does to other people, or the environment that they are not paying for or that they dump onto others (or other governments)

And of course the USA is also reponsible for 73% OF The Weapons of Mass edestruction in the world today and their poliferation.

Yes the USA may only be 5% of the worlds population, but its global affects are both negative and positive.

and under subsequent US regimes in Washington the global effects of the USA has sadly been predominantly NEGATIVE

TheChief · #43 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 05:55 AM

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It also depends on how you define wealth.

The USA for example also consumes about 30% of the worlds resources and yet makes up only 5% of the worlds population.

Americas richer because its a capitalist nation. Other nations who arn't suck and are poor why people want to destroy it when it leads to wealth is just stupid!

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The USA also produces about 33% of the greenhouse gases and other pollutants.

That seems very high since alot of its power is nuclear.. not that it matters of coarse.

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And of course the USA is also reponsible for 73% OF The Weapons of Mass destruction in the world today and their poliferation.

Good america is one of the few nations that can be trusted with WMD's..

B L Zeebub · #44 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by submarinepainter

I think we are
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/us.html
The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $46,000. In this market-oriented economy, private individuals and business firms make most of the decisions, and the federal and state governments buy needed goods and services predominantly in the private marketplace. US business firms enjoy greater flexibility than their counterparts in Western Europe and Japan in decisions to expand capital plant, to lay off surplus workers, and to develop new products. At the same time, they face higher barriers to enter their rivals' home markets than foreign firms face entering US markets. US firms are at or near the forefront in technological advances, especially in computers and in medical, aerospace, and military equipment; their advantage has narrowed since the end of World War II. The onrush of technology largely explains the gradual development of a "two-tier labor market" in which those at the bottom lack the education and the professional/technical skills of those at the top and, more and more, fail to get comparable pay raises, health insurance coverage, and other benefits. Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. The response to the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001 showed the remarkable resilience of the economy. The war in March-April 2003 between a US-led coalition and Iraq, and the subsequent occupation of Iraq, required major shifts in national resources to the military. The rise in GDP in 2004-07 was undergirded by substantial gains in labor productivity. Hurricane Katrina caused extensive damage in the Gulf Coast region in August 2005, but had a small impact on overall GDP growth for the year. Soaring oil prices in 2005-2007 threatened inflation and unemployment, yet the economy continued to grow through year-end 2007. Imported oil accounts for about two-thirds of US consumption. Long-term problems include inadequate investment in economic infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging population, sizable trade and budget deficits, and stagnation of family income in the lower economic groups. The merchandise trade deficit reached a record $847 billion in 2007. Together, these problems caused a marked reduction in the value and status of the dollar worldwide in 2007

If you judge the economy by per capita income then the UK economy is stronger, we surpassed you by $500 per annum per capita last year, and we are infront of germany and france by between $4000 t0 $6000.

Foolosophy · #45 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChief

Good america is one of the few nations that can be trusted with WMD's..

Yeah, the families of the people who were fried by the WMD's dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima obvioulsy agree with your insane patriotism.

In fact you are so patriotic YOU have left your beloved US mainland and are hiding in the far corner of the world.

You really need to get back the US and begin cleaning up the MESS you hero George Bush has left he world. I understand Bush is very popular at the moment.

bugalugs · #46 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

Australia isn't the best? Of course we are, we totally pwn you.

(Shushhhhh!!!....Let them think they're the best - we don't want them moving down here)

Yes, absolutely - USA is Number 1!!

bugalugs · #47 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChief

Good america is one of the few nations that can be trusted with WMD's..

Since they are the only country to have used nuclear weapons against civilians - I would say that makes them the least trustworthy nation to have WMDs

submarinepainter · #48 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

If you judge the economy by per capita income then the UK economy is stronger, we surpassed you by $500 per annum per capita last year, and we are infront of germany and france by between $4000 t0 $6000.

I thought we were talking powerful economies which we are #1

TheChief · #49 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:30 AM

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Yeah, the families of the people who were fried by the WMD's dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima obvioulsy agree with your insane patriotism.

We have a thread on this without dropping the bombs more lives would have been lost due to tackling japans bastard of a landscape..

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In fact you are so patriotic YOU have left your beloved US mainland and are hiding in the far corner of the world.

I wasn't born there. But i wish to return.

Foolosophy · #50 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChief

We have a thread on this without dropping the bombs more lives would have been lost due to tackling japans bastard of a landscape..

I wasn't born there. But i wish to return.

Really? I suggest you read up on your history. The Japanese were on their knees during the last days of WW2, just like germany.

The japanese SURRENDED but to the Russians who were allies with the Americans etc.

THE USA refused to accept this surrender to the Russians.

The Americans could have dropped the bomb on the remaining Japanese naval fleet or some other military target and the effect would have been the same.

BUT NO! They dropped two nuclear weapons on civilian cities.

The crap about saving lives by avoiding a land invasion is typical American propganda used to justify US CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

WHY didnt the US drop a nuclear device on Berlin to get the Germans to surrender? Why just Japan? And Japan had already surrendered to the Russians too!

WE ALL KNOW WHY THE AMERICANS DROPPED NUKES ON JAPAN AND NOT ON GERMANY - DONT WE FOLKS!

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