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Old 05-12-2008, 03:48 AM
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Words don't have to follow their etymological origins when it comes to their current meanings. Patriotism has nothing to do with terrorism.
Supporting an illegal, unprovoked invasion that has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians has everything to do with terrorism.
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Okay, all the Iraqi Civillians that were killed...who cares??
They did something to the US that is un-forgivable..and you want to complain and say things about us being over there fighting and killing Iraqi's. <<<Personal Attack Removed>>> You only say what you do because you didn't have to deal with what he had to. You know I hope one day they come to Australia and blow something up or drive a plane into something and kill thousands of Australians, and then I want to see what you have to say then.

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Okay, all the Iraqi Civillians that were killed...who cares??
They did something to the US that is un-forgivable..and you want to complain and say things about us being over there fighting and killing Iraqi's. <<<Personal Attack Removed>>>. You only say what you do because you didn't have to deal with what he had to. You know I hope one day they come to Australia and blow something up or drive a plane into something and kill thousands of Australians, and then I want to see what you have to say then.
I am at a loss as to what to say to you. If I said what was on my mind I'd earn an infraction.

It is heartless and sickening to not have pity for those innocent people in Iraq who are dying as a result of your war.

It is also sickening to wish a terror attack on Australia. No one here would ever wish something so horrifying on another country.
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Okay, all the Iraqi Civillians that were killed...who cares??
They did something to the US that is un-forgivable..and you want to complain and say things about us being over there fighting and killing Iraqi's. <<<Personal Attack Removed>>> You only say what you do because you didn't have to deal with what he had to. You know I hope one day they come to Australia and blow something up or drive a plane into something and kill thousands of Australians, and then I want to see what you have to say then.
Ugh, please help the cause by not articulating your thoughts on it. Thanks.

This statement is wrong on so many levels.
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Back to the original question.

We have to apply the same model to both sides. If Saddam is responsible for all the Iraqi deaths that occurred in the Iran-Iraq war then the US is responsible for all the Iraqi deaths in the US invasion and the Gulf War.

If the US calls out for the people to rise up and take arms against Saddam, who is responsible for the deaths?

If the UN places sanctions on Iraq that are heavily supported by the US, who is responsible for the deaths?


There are so many variables and there will be no conclusive method to categorize these deaths. The only thing for certain is one bloodthirsty regime cannot hold it's head high over the other.
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Ugh, please help the cause by not articulating your thoughts on it. Thanks.

This statement is wrong on so many levels.
As she well knows...I cannot hide my disgust for this woman.
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Okay, all the Iraqi Civillians that were killed...who cares??
They did something to the US that is un-forgivable..and you want to complain and say things about us being over there fighting and killing Iraqi's. <<<Personal Attack Removed>>>. You only say what you do because you didn't have to deal with what he had to. You know I hope one day they come to Australia and blow something up or drive a plane into something and kill thousands of Australians, and then I want to see what you have to say then.
Can you imagine having this person as your neighbor?

Note: Iraqis had nothing to do with 911*

...for the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 time
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Can you imagine having this person as your neighbor?

Note: Iraqis had nothing to do with 911*

...for the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 time
If she were my neighbour I probably would have set the dogs on her.
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Note: Iraqis had nothing to do with 911*

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"911" was the springboard for our war against terrorism. I don't care if we aren't actually going after the people specifically responsible for the attacks on that day. Our war is with the ideology of terrorism and with its terrorist practitioners.
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"911" was the springboard for our war against terrorism. I don't care if we aren't actually going after the people specifically responsible for the attacks on that day. Our war is with the ideology of terrorism and with its terrorist practitioners.
That pretty much sums it up doesn't it:

...I don't care if we aren't actually going after the people specifically responsible for the attacks on that day

Hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children killed as a result of an illegal invasion - and this clown doesn't care that they had no connection with any terrorist activity

You say our war is with the ideology of terrorism and with its terrorist practitioners - why than did the USA indiscriminately drop cluster bombs near civilian populations in Iraq? Is that what you call a war is with the ideology of terrorism - committing acts of terrorism yourselves?
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