The USA is far from being a secular democracy.

The USA is a fanatical fundamentalist Oligarchy

The USA is as far removed from the concept of a democracy as a country such as Iran or China would be.

So DO YOU APPROVE of the recent burning of hundreds of copies of the New Testament in Israel by Orthodox Jewish Youths?

Do you understand WHY Jesus rejected the Old Testament and Judaism?

Even if a person is an atheist they can read the Gospels and what Jesus was reported to have said and conclude that CHrist was a moral, compassionate pacifist.

You cannot make the same conclusions concerning the OLD TESTAMENT TEXT and the barbaric violent GOD known as YHWH

These 2 texts where glued together and have no moral relationship with one another whatsoever.

And we know why dont we Catz?

proof?


Religious writings hold no special place in my heart, it wouldn't bother me in the least if they were all destroyed, along with the silly superstitions they engender.

Matthew 5:17: "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

Matthew 10:24 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword!"

See Matthew 5:17, above.

Wait, don't tell me. is it the jooz? Is it the zionists? (*)(*)(*)(*) those evil jooz! They are responsible for all the world's evils.

Next you'll be quoting to us from the protocols of the elders of zion.

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I'll get nicer when you get smarter.

So how does YOUR concept of slavery as well as the rampant immoral genocide that was carried out with respect to the native American indians fit in with your version of a pure AMERICAN democracy?


Must I grab the history books and remind you of the indigenous Australians?
Before the arrival of British their was approximately 318,000 - 750,000 indigenous Australians.
direct violence reduced the Aboriginal population by up to 80% between 1788 and 1900.

The history books show in great detail all the battles that took place where the British(Australians)
almost sent this population of indigenous Australians into distinction.

Guilty as charged, because you are Europeans this is your way of life. on the other hand Americans
through the years have learned to shed themselves of these ways. to improve life for all in a melting
pot, that Europe has never archived still today.

Your immigrants in Europe(mostly Muslims) are treated as second class citizens still today.

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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

Oh, and I almost forgot to tell about how long it took to give more rights to Aborigines.
It was not until 1962 they specifically gave Aborigines the right to vote in Commonwealth elections.

The list of other rights is long and never ending, that these people were treated as nothing up the
20th century. it's damming I know.

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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

So instead of addressing the genocide we committed, you show one the Britians committed as if that absolves us of any blame?

So instead of addressing the genocide we committed, you show one the Britians committed as if that absolves us of any blame?


No it don't, but it shows that those who accuse others of crimes they also are guilty of, are hypocrites.
So My statement remains the same, and it's meaning remains true.

Also as I stated on other posts here, Americans were Europeans, who had to learn to shed themselves of
the bad European habits. which America is light years ahead of the rest of the world in. For we are the
only country that is Mixed with the most people from around the world, and we still strive to become
more American, then European, for we are Americans.

We live in the present, and strive to create a better future, so when those who dredge up the past for the
soul purpose of smearing, it's my duty to show that they too are guilty of the very same crimes, not to
minimize it, but to show the hypocrisy, and the dishonesty of their views to hold others on a higher
standard then what they think they should be held to.

I was showing the hypocrisy, while you over looked it.


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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

So you admit that the THE USA is non-democratic both now and within its violent inception/?

I am not claiming that Australia is a democracy or didnt institute sate sponsored cruelty, slavery and genocide on the indigneous population.

You however are claiming that the US invented democracy and is founded on democratic principles.

Answer the question again MR PROOF-HUNTER?

Gee I better not get another infraction notice from Catz for changing your nickname to to something more apt and honest. OOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh Scared

Yes and in the 1960's african americans where not allowed in WHITE only restaurants and had to sit at the back of the bus.

Remember when President Kenedy had to send in the Military to a university so that a black US citizen could enter the school grounds and get an education/?

When was that MR PROOF-HUNTER?

Yes the creation of the Australian state caused all sorts of injustices to be perpetrated on the indigineous populations - INCLUDING GENOCIDE and theft and abuse of children.

THIS IS THE STANDARD METHOD OF IMPERIALISM AND FASCIST VIOLENT EXPANSIONISM THAT HAS BEEN CARRIED OUT OVER THE MILLENIA UNDER THE BANNER:

"WHITE MILITANT CHRISTIAN MORALITY"

Work on your own nation's problems - WHICH ARE HUGE at the moment before you start flinging stones at others in the blatant and pathetic attempt at diverting attention to the scandalously immoral internal and external behaviour fo the US state.

Amen

I didn't overlook it. I didn't care about your point quite frankly because you again, haven't admitted nor even addressed the fact that we committed genocide and we did things just like our European counterparts forever and still do.

Remember when President Kenedy had to send in the Military to a university so that a black US citizen could enter the school grounds and get an education/?


I remember it well, and as I stated before, we have more civilized citizens then just President Kennedy, yet we still had
others who had not shed their European ways, I thought I had made that clear?


Work on your own nation's problems - WHICH ARE HUGE at the moment before you start flinging stones at others in the blatant and pathetic attempt at diverting attention to the scandalously immoral internal and external behaviour fo the US state.


If I remember right, you pointed that finger at us first, all I did was held a mirror up to you.


I didn't overlook it. I didn't care about your point quite frankly because you again, haven't admitted nor even addressed the fact that we committed genocide and we did things just like our European counterparts forever and still do


I have not admitted to it? that's funny, I really thought I did, when I explained that we were Europeans once, but have been
striving for decades to shed our selves of the old European ways, you just did not pay it any attention.

You sure prove to me you don't take in and think about what you read.

Years ago, I desided that since we all know all countrys have alot of bad history, and it's a given, when ever someone use's
that to smear another country, I will combat it with the Mirror, because it's foolish to be a hipocrite.


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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson