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View Poll Results: Is the US Supreme Court taking a left turn?
Absolutely. They are tending towards loose constructionism to interpret existing law. 1 16.67%
Not really. This was just a glitch, but overall, the court is still Conservative. 5 83.33%
Absolutely not. Both decisions were based on strict constructionism. 0 0%
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In a huge surprise, the Supreme Court sided with the ACLU on two cases and broadly interpreted both. Surprisingly, Judge Alito, a Bush pick, sided with the ACLU on one of those cases, and Judge Roberts, the other Bush pick, sided with the ACLU on the other case. You can read about the cases here, then please answer the poll.
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In a huge surprise, the Supreme Court sided with the ACLU on two cases and broadly interpreted both. Surprisingly, Judge Alito, a Bush pick, sided with the ACLU on one of those cases, and Judge Roberts, the other Bush pick, sided with the ACLU on the other case. You can read about the cases here, then please answer the poll.
and no surprise, scalia and thomas dissented in both instances
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i agree with a quote from the article
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"Workers who fear retaliation are far less likely to report discrimination,"
while i dont agree with the loose interpretation of law,
or someone trying to use a law written in 1866 to decide a present day issue,
we have to do everything we can to allow people to reveal discrimination,
or there will always be discrimination.

so i view the decisions as 'necessarily loose' interpretations,
and im okay with them.

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i don't really care.
loose interpretations suck,
but so does punishing someone for revealing discrimination.

the court still hangs to the right
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I don't see how this case was any proof of liberalism in the justices. I'm not so sure it was "strict constructionist" but I don't think that phrase has any real meaning anyway.

The court basically said that the workers could take the case to court.
That isn't very radical.

Really claiming someone does not have the right to take some grievance to court is what requires explanation.

It just so happens this is one of those areas where a lot of conservatives and most liberals can agree.

Of course the two radical-cons dissented... but that's because they are what I've come to think the meaning of "strict constructionist" is: they are insane right-wing ideologues who favor anything that gives more power to the rich and elite at the expense of ordinary people.
I'm sure that's not the intended meaning... but that's what it's come to mean.
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In a huge surprise, the Supreme Court sided with the ACLU on two cases and broadly interpreted both. Surprisingly, Judge Alito, a Bush pick, sided with the ACLU on one of those cases, and Judge Roberts, the other Bush pick, sided with the ACLU on the other case. You can read about the cases here, then please answer the poll.
what surprised you about this?

you think the ACLU and conservative judges are anathema to each other or what?
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and no surprise, scalia and thomas dissented in both instances
why no surprise? you expected the other conservative judges to go along, but not these?

could you please explain that a little bit---your reasoning?
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i agree with a quote from the article

while i dont agree with the loose interpretation of law,
or someone trying to use a law written in 1866 to decide a present day issue,
we have to do everything we can to allow people to reveal discrimination,
or there will always be discrimination.

so i view the decisions as 'necessarily loose' interpretations,
and im okay with them.

a.k.a.
i don't really care.
loose interpretations suck,
but so does punishing someone for revealing discrimination.

the court still hangs to the right
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In a pair of decisions, the court concluded that claims of retaliation were covered by long-standing civil rights laws, even though this kind of discrimination was not mentioned specifically in the statutes.
...if something isn't specifically mentioned it isn't covered, so this offends your sensibilities, or you have issues with the court upholding "long-standing civil rights laws" as a practice?

what principles are involved? was this an activist decision?
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loose interpretation?

...if something isn't specifically mentioned it isn't covered, so this offends your sensibilities, or you have issues with the court upholding "long-standing civil rights laws" as a practice?

what principles are involved? was this an activist decision?
you know what?
i didnt say it offended me,
and i said i was ok with it.

the principle involved was protecting people who report discrimination.
which is NOT in the 1866 law.
and no it wasnt activist.
it was the supreme court picking up the ball the best way they could after the original judge fumbled it.
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