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Old 05-31-2008, 05:44 AM
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That was clearly a joke.

He said it, smiled, people laughed.


You didn't get it?

Anyway, mcain wasn't joking he was lying.

Or disconnected from reality due to an inferior mind.

Not sure which is better or worse.
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This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/0...march_comm.php
How could the 1965 March on Selma result in his conception when he was born in 1961? Would you consider Barack lying? Was this a joke?
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You don't think it's important that a presidential candidate falsely states the number of troops in the war?

I'm sure, based on your harping on the 57-states-joke, that if it were a different candidate, you'd feel differently.
There's a difference between harping on something and letting a lie go unchallenged.

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The question now is whether it was an outright lie, or if McCain really doesn't know this stuff.
You go with that. Anything that makes you think Barack will have any cred on military matters is good for you.
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The title of the thread is "McCain Lies About Troop Levels". Can you cite your information showing where McCain gave his statement, knowing it wasn't true, with the intent to deceive?
Not sure whether he lied in this one, or was just making statements in err not knowing the facts.


But he sure let it fly in this one.

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We don't need another idiot who makes up facts to suit his rhetoric.
That rules out Obama.
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It's more of a smirk.

And yes, people laughed.


Watch:YouTube - Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States

People sure are laughing now. What an idiot!
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How could the 1965 March on Selma result in his conception when he was born in 1961? Would you consider Barack lying? Was this a joke?
He said his grandfather signed up the day after Pearl Harbor, yet records hows it was actually a long time after in late 1942.

The lies just keep going, and going, and going.......
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There's a difference between harping on something and letting a lie go unchallenged.
lol. Yeah, Obama's part of the "extra-seven states" conspiracy.

That, or it was clearly a joke, and you people are desperate.


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You go with that. Anything that makes you think Barack will have any cred on military matters is good for you.
He has more credibility than anybody who supported the Dumb War.

More than anybody who doesn't know the difference between shiite and sunni.

More than anybody who lies about troop levels to paint a rosy picture of the war.

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McCain didn’t lie; he was just a little ahead of the neo-con schedule! They are going to bring a large swath of troop’s home ahead of the elections, I’m telling you without the fear of reprisal that this is going to happen! The Knuckle will say, well yeah McCain was right we're winning in Iraq and troops withdrawals are what comes next. It won’t be defeat at this time. I will also bet that when you look at the violence levels they will match past statistics, but will be considered gains because it goes with the mind set that will be presented as victory.
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lol. Yeah, Obama's part of the "extra-seven states" conspiracy.

That, or it was clearly a joke, and you people are desperate.

He has more credibility than anybody who supported the Dumb War.

More than anybody who doesn't know the difference between shiite and sunni.

More than anybody who lies about troop levels to paint a rosy picture of the war.
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May 29, 2008

Barack Obama is considering a visit to Iraq this summer, his first to the war zone since becoming a presidential candidate.

But Obama, who has been under criticism from Republican rival John McCain for not visiting Iraq since 2006, declined McCain's invitation for a joint trip.

"I just don't want to be involved in a political stunt," Obama said, according to a report on the New York Times website yesterday. "I think that if I'm going to Iraq, then I'm there to talk to troops and talk to commanders. I'm not there to try to score political points or perform."

Obama took his only trip to Iraq in January 2006, when he traveled as part of a congressional delegation.

The Republican Party joined the criticism yesterday by launching an online clock to count the days since Obama last visited.

"This is about leadership and learning," McCain said in Nevada, where he was campaigning. "To say that we're failing in Iraq and not succeeding does not comport with the facts on the ground, so we've got to show him the facts on the ground."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...o_with_mccain/
Credibility is espousing only what you have heard about, not what you've seen for yourself....interesting concept.

Why won't he go with McCain? I thought Obama was all about dialog, McCain is just a political opponent how will he face a real enemy. What is he afraid of? If he scared to stand toe to toe with the Old Man, he'll make half of a Jimmy Carter as President.
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