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This is at the hearing on HR 1207 on 9/25/09, and is Rep. Grayson's opening statement.

With 290 co-sponsors, HR 1207 "represents a new model of bi-partisanship."

Rep. Alan Grayson on the Bipartisanship Effort to Audit the Federal Reserve


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Ron Paul wrote an article for http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/...-constitution/

Here is a short snip of it:

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The Federal Reserve vs the Constitution
by Ron Paul
Posted on 24 September 2009

Statement at Hearing of the House Financial Services Committee, February 15, 2007

Transparency in monetary policy is a goal we should all support. I’ve often wondered why Congress so willingly has given up its prerogative over monetary policy. Astonishingly, Congress in essence has ceded total control over the value of our money to a secretive central bank.

Congress created the Federal Reserve, yet it had no constitutional authority to do so. We forget that those powers not explicitly granted to Congress by the Constitution are inherently denied to Congress – and thus the authority to establish a central bank never was given.

Of course Jefferson and Hamilton had that debate early on, a debate seemingly settled in 1913.

But transparency and oversight are something else, and they’re worth considering. Congress, although not by law, essentially has given up all its oversight responsibility over the Federal Reserve.

There are no true audits, and Congress knows nothing of the conversations, plans, and actions taken in concert with other central banks. We get less and less information regarding the money supply each year, especially now that M3 is no longer reported.
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Ron Paul wrote an article for http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/...-constitution/

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Transparency in monetary policy is a goal we should all support. I’ve often wondered why Congress so willingly has given up its prerogative over monetary policy.


Did Paul really say this? Is he kidding? Does he really believe that Congress should have direct involvement in money policy?

Those idiots can't even balance a budget. They'd destroy the country in short order if they got their mitts on the money tap.

Divorcing Congress from direct involvement in money policy was one of the smartest things Congress ever did.

I cannot believe any rational person would actual support this.
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Transparency in monetary policy is a goal we should all support. I’ve often wondered why Congress so willingly has given up its prerogative over monetary policy.


Did Paul really say this? Is he kidding? Does he really believe that Congress should have direct involvement in money policy?

Those idiots can't even balance a budget. They'd destroy the country in short order if they got their mitts on the money tap.

Divorcing Congress from direct involvement in money policy was one of the smartest things Congress ever did.

I cannot believe any rational person would actual support this.
so now you are arguing for no regulation ?
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so now you are arguing for no regulation ?
No.

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No.

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so the politicians should have direct involvement ?
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This is really, really, a great accomplishment by Ron Paul. Amazing in it's zeal and nativity. I can think of nothing that makes more sense than having an OBGYN pour through financial records and offering up his take on them. I liken it Ron Paul's other great accomplishment.

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr120401.htm

Washington, DC: Congress today passed legislation introduced by Congressman Ron Paul honoring the important contributions of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. HCR 277, which passed unanimously in the House of Representatives, recognizes the growing importance of the Hispanic business organization both in Texas and across the nation.

"The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce has a significant impact among Hispanic businesses," Paul's resolution states. "The Chamber serves a key role both as a business group and civic organization. It has helped to bring entrepreneurship to the Hispanic community, and also helped pool the resources and talents of Hispanic small businesses."
"The Chamber is important to the promotion of the free market process of the United States, to the future success of Hispanic Americans, and to society at large," the resolution continues. "Its special role should be recognized and further cultivated to the benefit of all Americans."

Congressman Paul was pleased by the support for his bill. "Hispanics in America are business owners and entrepreneurs, and their contribution to our free market system is enormous."
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so the politicians should have direct involvement ?
Direct involvement in responsibility for the money supply? I don't think that would be a wise idea. Congress and the Presidency have proven they are not very responsible. Just look at the amount of debt they have run up you harp about.

Imagine what would happen if we gave them direct control of the money supply.
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Direct involvement in responsibility for the money supply? I don't think that would be a wise idea. Congress and the Presidency have proven they are not very responsible. Just look at the amount of debt they have run up you harp about.

Imagine what would happen if we gave them direct control of the money supply.
bankers without oversight are more trustworthy ?
Are they a different species of human ?
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bankers without oversight are more trustworthy ?
Are they a different species of human ?
Nope. Though that have different incentives.

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