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Old 11-25-2007, 11:13 PM
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Nonsense - Bubba Clinton decimated the military. He sent a swarm of feminazis into the pentagon to feminize the US military, and cut the number of active army divisions in half.
Ah, ya all mixed up Blade. The military was decimated under Bush Sr., and the legislation continued through clintons term in office with the GAO writting off the BRAC closures. Clinton just followed the law written by Bush Sr., and built a lean killing machine with what he was allowed to keep. You see the money from BRAC went into techology of new weapons like the drone aircraft, hummves, hawk hieos, navy missiles, etc. that lil Bush is using today, and were ready by the Afghan war. The idea was to use distant warfare with few ground troops - lesson learned Desert Storm. But yeah, Bush Sr. is the one who gutted the military and passed on the laws to require BRAC to continue. In fact Bush Sr. let more US Troops go than Clinton did, and was even ridding himself of them while Desert Storm was going on, which I thought crazy than hell at the time.

Lil Bush is the one running down the US military as we speak, by trying to squeak by, denying needed body armor, etc. You remember Rummy don't you? Sure you do. And taxing these troops past the limits of sanity with extended tours, nervous breakdowns, suicides, wife beatings, you name it.

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Nonsense - Bubba Clinton decimated the military. He sent a swarm of feminazis into the pentagon to feminize the US military, and cut the number of active army divisions in half.
Ah, ya all mixed up Blade. The military was decimated under Bush Sr., and the legislation continued through clintons term in office with the GAO writting off the BRAC closures. Clinton just followed the law written by Bush Sr., and built a lean killing machine with what he was allowed to keep. You see the money from BRAC went into techology of new weapons like the drone aircraft, hummves, hawk hieos, navy missiles, etc. that lil Bush is using today, and were ready by the Afghan war. The idea was to use distant warfare with few ground troops - lesson learned Desert Storm. But yeah, Bush Sr. is the one who gutted the military and passed on the laws to require BRAC to continue. In fact Bush Sr. let more US Troops go than Clinton did, and was even ridding himself of them while Desert Storm was going on, which I thought crazy than hell at the time.

Lil Bush is the one running down the US military as we speak, by trying to squeak by, denying needed body armor, etc. You remember Rummy don't you? Sure you do. And taxing these troops past the limits of sanity with extended tours, nervous breakdowns, suicides, wife beatings, you name it.

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Nonsense - as is well known, Bubba cut the number of army divisions from 18 to 10, and closed 700 bases and installations in the US and overseas. Bush the elder was aiming at a decrease in forces after the collapse of the soviet union in 1989, but that reasoning was overturned by the emerging islamofacsist world-wide threat, and the resurgence of saddam hussein - threats that were ignored by Bubba during the 1990s, and culminated in the 9-11 attacks.
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Don't worry. If Bush had been called to active duty, he would have been over there with the rest of the cannon fodder, if he wished to stay in the service.
[color=blue]Bush "honorably" chose the height of the Tet Offensive to engage in aggressive maneuvers - using his family influence to get into the Texas Air National Guard specifically to avoid being drafted to go to Vietnam.
The Tet offensive occurred at the end of January, 1968, and Bush joined the Texas ANG around four months afterward. It seems that you conveniently omitted the part of my post where I made the point about military pilots resigning their commissions near the end of the Vietnam war, owing to the general disillusionment, not wanting to get their rear-ends shot off in a war we weren't going to win, and apparenly weren't supposed to win. Bush's attendance record was impeccable up until around that time. If he skipped some training periods, starting around 1972, I see that as reflecting the general mood about Vietnam among the military, and I can't say that I blame any of them. Even as early as 1970, during my fifth and final deployment aboard the USS Coral Sea, stories were going around that many "Search & Destroy" missions were really nothing more than "Ordnance Disposal" missions, where pilots just flew around in a safe area for awhile, dumped their weapons and came home. Even then, the general mood about Vietnam was going sour. I believe that all this nitpicking about Bush's military record is just a bunch of partisan crapola. Obviously, Bush didn't have any more respect for the way the Johnson/McNamara team were running the war than any of the aforementioned people.
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MRMAGQQ, thanks for your military service to our country. May I ask you what your opinion is as to why the vietnam war was lost?
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