The two "I got better things to do" leaders of America (Bush/Cheney) are being joined by increased numbers of US Troops who also have other things to do than die in Iraq for no rhyme or reason. No wonder Bush needs a surge of fresh young meat to replace his deserter Club members.

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Army Desertion Rate Highest Since 1980
By LOLITA C. BALDOR,AP
Posted: 2007-11-16 18:42:38
Filed Under: Iraq News
WASHINGTON (Nov. 16) - Soldiers strained by six years at war are deserting their posts at the highest rate since 1980, with the number of Army deserters this year showing an 80 percent increase since the United States invaded Iraq in 2003.

While the totals are still far lower than they were during the Vietnam War, when the draft was in effect, they show a steady increase over the past four years and a 42 percent jump since last year.

"We're asking a lot of soldiers these days," said Roy Wallace, director of plans and resources for Army personnel. "They're humans. They have all sorts of issues back home and other places like that. So, I'm sure it has to do with the stress of being a soldier."

The Army defines a deserter as someone who has been absent without leave for longer than 30 days. The soldier is then discharged as a deserter.

According to the Army, about nine in every 1,000 soldiers deserted in fiscal year 2007, which ended Sept. 30, compared to nearly seven per 1,000 a year earlier. Overall, 4,698 soldiers deserted this year, compared to 3,301 last year.

The increase comes as the Army continues to bear the brunt of the war demands with many soldiers serving repeated, lengthy tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. Military leaders — including Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey — have acknowledged that the Army has been stretched nearly to the breaking point by the combat.


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Shintao this is just like a song that was sung by Petula Clark back in those Vietnam days called "It is a sign of the times", and is what is expected and is no shock, my mouth didn't drop to the floor over this news and is very befitting for the time and the present situation. You sure are warring good on this forum and you are a good warrior whether in combat or verbalizing. Did you ever find out if Duh2 is your son or not? I don't think so since his thinking is nothing like your's. I can't blame the soldiers, it take believing in a war for your heart to be in it and this war just isn't raking up the support at all. There are the robotic soldiers that are doing it because they are ordered to do it just like the robotons that support Bush. But real people are not for this and so many feel this is the second biggest mistake made in American history, the first biggest mistake is electing Bush.

Wow!!! Garsh! Less than 1%! Actually, this is probably the lowest desertion rate in US military history. from previous wars:

mexican american war 7%

civil war 11% union troops

spanish american war 2%

Phillipine war 4%

WWII 6.3%(1944) 4.5%(1945)

http://www.answers.com/topic/desertion

And there weren't no neocons back then! Desertion is a problem in all armies in all wars.

Now what you appeasers have to explain is why desertion in this war is a historic LOW.

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Blade you read like a blind man. <--- Personal attack and insulting to vision impaired people We are talking about a 42 percent increase since last year and that is a big jump. The wars that you are talking about are wars that had drafts and it was hard to desert something the law has ordered. This is a volunteer war and many and many more are realizing they are volunteering for something that is very stupid and so pointless [Bush said the reason our soldiers are dying is to get the Iraqi people freedom because they don't want to try to get it themselves because they are afraid they will get killed, or was why they said they didn't want to rise up against Saddam Hussein themselves}. And why does it say they are deserting, FALTERING MORALES.
Talk about flip-flopping then it seem that Bush is always changing the reason on why we are in Iraq, at first it was to get WMDS and then it turn into we are doing it to get the Iraqi people freedom and now it is to fight terrorists. Hell the terrorist are everywhere waiting for us to kill all our military over there antagonizing the regular Iraqis to rise up and try to make us leave and quit using their land for a battlefield and we kill them calling them insurgents. Wait till we kill all our soldiers over there and leave the elders and children over here and then the real terrorist will have an easy time taking over America, many of them already got their convenience stores over here milking all the money from us by their gas pumps which in turn aids the Islamic revolution to soon take over, same thing is going on in Europe.

J, you're proving once again that when you come across simple statistics, your brain shorts out and you draw reverse conclusions.

42% above almost nothing is still almost nothing - this is a non-story by the appeaser lib media.

Unfortunately, the law doesn't give them the right to pick and choose what wars to fight in. That they volunteered gives them even less justification for running away.

Incoherent - what the hell are you babbling about?

Who is "FALTERING MORALES" - a mexican drug dealer???

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Ahhhh shuddup and get down the liquor store before it close and get you another bottle of whiskey and pass out somewhere, man you are so drunk to the point to where you are so incoherent. When you wake up sober tomorrow you will see that my post make sense and your's sure doesn't.

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They're deserting and getting a job at Blackwater so they can rake in the dough and increase their chance of survival.

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Did not realize fox views was an appeaser lib media. I think you meant to say, anyone that disagrees with the infatuated neocon agitators is branded lib media.

I think you raise a good point about deserters, which outside your stat has little to do with the "why" of the desertions at a time when the infatuate agitators claim they are winning something in Iraq. It tells me morale is low, not high, and the CIC is unfit for duty and should resign while we still have a military. The neocon story just doesn't fit into a square or round hole.

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BUT it's still LOW!!! NINE in 1000 soldiers???? So, the number went from 7 to 9 and the libbies are making a BIG deal about it.

Good Lord.

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The why is no big deal. I have to relook up the article I found on historic disertion from the US military, because I think in many eras the less than 1% is low even for peacetime. So you've actually got it backwards - it's more like you anti-wars should explain why it's so low.

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