BlackWater CEO Erik Prince a spy for the CIA and operating Secret War in Pakistan.

Kimaris · #1 (**permalink**) 12-04-2009, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Erik Prince, recently outed as a participant in a C.I.A. assassination program, has gained notoriety as head of the military-contracting juggernaut Blackwater, a company dogged by a grand-jury investigation, bribery accusations, and the voluntary-manslaughter trial of five ex-employees, set for next month. Lashing back at his critics, the wealthy former navy seal takes the author inside his operation in the U.S. and Afghanistan, revealing the role he’s been playing in America’s war on terror.
...

Wow and all those people in Pakistan were right. BlackWater is operating in Pakistan under the authority of the C.I.A. and Special Ops. and they are responsible for all Drone Attacks and some of the Secret Prisons "all without the Authority of Congress".

waltky · #2 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 04:55 PM

Blackwater goin' after the terrorists...

CIA reportedly engaged Blackwater for covert operations
Friday 11th December, 2009 - Highly trained personnel employed with the private security firm formerly known as Blackwater Worldwide sometimes operated side by side with CIA field officers in Iraq and Afghanistan as the agency undertook missions to kill or capture members of insurgent groups in those countries, according to a former government official and a source familiar with the operations.

Quote:

The actions taken by the private personnel went beyond the protective role specified in a classified Blackwater contract with the CIA and included active participation in raids overseen by CIA or special forces personnel, these sources said. They emphasized that roles and responsibilities often are blurred or altered in a battlefield setting, and that Blackwater personnel were drawn into the operations on an ad-hoc basis because they were present and had the necessary skills.

Still, the involvement of Blackwater's officers in raids is likely to raise new questions about the degree to which deadly actions in Iraq and Afghanistan were outsourced to contract personnel who operated without direct contractual authority or without the kind of oversight and accountability applied to CIA and military personnel. CIA Director Leon Panetta earlier this year ordered the agency to terminate many of its contracts with Blackwater, but CIA officials said Thursday that Panetta has ordered a special internal review of the agency's contracts with the company to ensure that its work is strictly security-related -- a review that may wind up shining a new light on intelligence practices during the Bush administration.

The agency still relies on the firm, now named Xe Services, to provide security for agency employees and assets. Panetta told Congress in the summer that he had shut down a CIA assassination program that employed Blackwater personnel in a supporting role. The CIA has publicly stated that the program, which dated from President George W. Bush's first term in office, was never fully implemented and that no one was killed. A House committee is investigating that program. The CIA declined to comment yesterday on specific intelligence operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

More http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=576409

See also:

CIA cuts contract with Blackwater for US drones
Saturday 12th December, 2009 - Employees of the controversial private security firm formerly known as Blackwater Worldwide will no longer participate in CIA missions in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the New York Times reported.

Quote:

Employees of the firm now known as Xe Services had been involved in loading bombs on unmanned drones that have targeted Al Qaeda and Taliban targets, but CIA Director Leon Panetta cancelled the contract earlier this year.

A CIA spokesman told the newspaper that the agency was reexamining all its contracts with the company.

The private company with 40,000 employees had come under heavy scrutiny for its work in Iraq, where a shootout in 2007 left 17 people dead and prompted the Iraqi government to not renew the company's operating license.

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=576800

Grokmaster · #3 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimaris

Tycoon, Contractor, Soldier, Spy

Wow and all those people in Pakistan were right. BlackWater is operating in Pakistan under the authority of the C.I.A. and Special Ops. and they are responsible for all Drone Attacks and some of the Secret Prisons "all without the Authority of Congress".

Darnit !! If this keeps up,we might actually kill a bunch of terrorists,which will, of course, infuriate the Worldleft....

HB Surfer · #4 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 05:32 PM

Vanity Fair wants to cry and whine along with all of its liberal sycophants about the Wilsons "being outed", but does not mind writing this story?

What a joke.

The Great Khan · #5 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimaris

Wow and all those people in Pakistan were right. BlackWater is operating in Pakistan under the authority of the C.I.A. and Special Ops. and they are responsible for all Drone Attacks and some of the Secret Prisons "all without the Authority of Congress".

I believe the Taliban broke that news, there was a video posted in another thread and all the rightwingers were in it saying the Taliban were lying, I guess not.

Grokmaster · #6 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Khan

I believe the Taliban broke that news, there was a video posted in another thread and all the rightwingers were in it saying the Taliban were lying, I guess not.

We should,perhaps, burn a few of them alive...but stand back to avoid the escaping lice.

paco · #7 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimaris

Tycoon, Contractor, Soldier, Spy

Wow and all those people in Pakistan were right. BlackWater is operating in Pakistan under the authority of the C.I.A. and Special Ops. and they are responsible for all Drone Attacks and some of the Secret Prisons "all without the Authority of Congress".

Obama takes full credit for CIA successes in Afghanistan, but is mum when they step across the border into Pakistan to do the real dirty work.

CIA Predator drones could aid Taliban, reporter says

The CIA’s use of Predator drones to kill suspected terrorists in Pakistan, which has significantly increased under the Obama administration, is recognized for its success in taking out intended targets. There are concerns, however, the program could also be helping Taliban leaders with their propaganda, as noted by Jane Mayer’s recent expose in the New Yorker.

In an appearance Thursday on MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show, Mayer explained that as amazing as the remote control technology behind the drones may be, "It is based always on human intelligence telling you which target to go after."

"They’ve gotten some tremendous success in killing al Qaeda leaders," Mayer noted, "but at the same time, since 2006, they’ve killed between 750 and 1000 people. The number of al Qaeda is a small fraction of all the people that they’ve killed. There’s a lot of so-called collateral damage."

Because of this, Mayer suggests, "It’s a program that people fear is going to have unintended consequences. … It’s going to become a propaganda tool for the Taliban and it’s going to create retaliation against the United States and maybe against Pakistan’s government, which we’re trying to prop up."

According to New York Times reporter David Rohde, for example, "The drones killed many senior commanders and hindered their operations. Yet the Taliban were able to garner recruits in their aftermath by exaggerating the number of civilian casualties."

There is also an "accountability" issue, according to Mayer, because the U.S. military is using the drones in Iraq and Afghanistan, but in Pakistan, where the US is not officially at war, the drones are operated by the CIA in a supposedly "secret program."

"So there’s no chain of command," Mayer told Maddow. "… It’s been described as an accountability void, basically, where people are dying but there’s no kind of public acknowledgment. So what happens if there’s a mistake? Who do you hold responsible?"

Mayer also said the program raises broader questions about what will happen if Russia or China starts using the same tactics — and even whether the Americans who operate the drones by remote control from the United States could be considered battlefield combatants and targeted in retaliation. "It really is kind of a scary frontier," Mayer concluded.

This video is from MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show, broadcast Oct. 22, 2009.

Download video via RawReplay.com

Blackrook · #8 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 07:41 PM

Obama is the first to openly say we should take the fight to Pakistan and that's what he's doing. I thought liberals were on board for that.

tomfoo13ry · #9 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 08:19 PM

Way to go Obama. Take the fight to them.

Recusant · #10 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HB Surfer

Vanity Fair wants to cry and whine along with all of its liberal sycophants about the Wilsons "being outed", but does not mind writing this story?

What a joke.

I was thinking the same thing as i entered this topic, but someone revealed that the Taliban somehow got this story out. I think that is interesting in itself.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Sources: Blackwater's Running A Secret War in Pakistan - So Classified...	Kimaris	Warfare / Military	12	11-25-2009 05:26 PM
What Operating system do you use	usconstituiton	Opinion POLLS	15	07-14-2009 12:58 PM
Pam's House Blend objects to "a prince can marry a prince" ad	OpineBlog	Political Blogs	0	10-13-2008 07:40 PM
Bush secret order to send special forces into Pakistan	North Pole Resident	Political Blogs	9	09-11-2008 10:42 PM
Pentagon and CIA: Authorized For Secret Ops In Pakistan	BlueBlog	Political Blogs	0	01-17-2008 09:47 PM